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Guns N' Roses => Guns N' Roses => Wątek zaczęty przez: Zqyx w Kwietnia 06, 2014, 11:07:17 am

Tytuł: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Kwietnia 06, 2014, 11:07:17 am
W tym miejscu miał być owoc wielomiesięcznego wyszukiwania informacji na temat nowej płyty Gunsów, który, dzięki Kurczakowi i hkt został w pewien sposób odrestaurowany. Niestety NTS ( jako forum ) nie chce, byśmy dyskutowali na ten temat, więc dopóki błąd ze znikającym postem nie zostanie naprawiony nic tu nie wrzucę, bo się po prostu nie da.

Dziękuję za uwagę.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Kwietnia 09, 2014, 09:25:35 am
Ja bym tu dodał tytuł jeszcze który sie pojawiał tu i ówdzie
Daddy can the Devil do Mommy and Me

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Dexter wrote:
Because that's all it was, only at the time having just got it together only Jimmy Iovine knew that who wanted it to sell their soundtrack. I saw segments of the movie which were good. As a whole later not so much but it wasn't ready yet then. I did write an experimental piece inspired by the bits I'd seen called "Daddy Can the Devil do Mommy and me?" ;D

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=5578 (http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=5578)

Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Kwietnia 09, 2014, 09:49:16 am
Dziękuję. Podzieliłem ten cytat, bo w części odnosił się do OMG :)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Kwietnia 09, 2014, 11:15:31 am
Z utworów jeszcze nie wymienionych wyżej a które sie pojawiają (wg. Mister Saint Laurent (aka MSL))
- Light My Fire
- Cuban Skies
- Tonto
- Monstrosity

UPDATE (FEBRUARY 2, 2011):
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According to "insider" Mister Saint Laurent (aka MSL), there were plans for a 2-disc reissue of Chinese Democracy, containing "new" artwork and a second disc full of re-mixes - including a version of "Better' with Dj Ashba on guitar - and one "new" song: "Blood in the Water." MSL also offered up a list of "new" song titles: Atlas, Cuban Skies, Goin' Down, Jackie Chan, Light My Fire, Monstrosity, Silk Worms, Soul Monster, The General, Thyme, Tonto. The reissue was originally scheduled for march 29, 2011.

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"For now we'll concentrate and keep our focus on this album but I will say I've always thought of it as a double."
-Axl Rose
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Kwietnia 16, 2014, 07:24:57 pm
Jeszcze z tego co pamiętam pojawiały sie już dawno takie nazwy utworów jak:
Zip It
Friend Or Foe
Cock A Roach Soup
Suckerpunched
No Love Remains
Something Always
 
większość z nich to fake... choć może faktycznie istnieją, tylko tytuły sie pozmieniały :) tylko Axl to wie :)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Kwietnia 16, 2014, 07:29:01 pm
Może część tych utworów zmieniła tytuły, ale żadnego z nich Axl nie potwierdził.
Staram się podawać tylko informacje potwierdzone i nie powielać tego, co już mam w pierwszym poście. O to samo proszę wszystkich, którzy podadzą jakieś informacje uzupełniające.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Kwietnia 17, 2014, 10:09:46 am
oczywiście, że tak. nie wiadomo czy one w ogóle istnieją.



Post Merge: [time]Kwiecień 17, 2014, 10:12:23 am[/time]
nazwy utworów które krążyły już przy wydaniu ChD
Ides Of March, We Were Lying, Motormouth, , Suckerpunched, , Friend Or Foe, Zip It, Something Always, Hearts Get Killed, Closing In On You, Strange Disease, Zodiac, Broken, Never Had It

Post Merge: [time]Kwiecień 17, 2014, 10:35:21 am[/time]
DATE: Dec. 13, 2008
SOURCE: chinesedemocracy

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BringBackBrain: Axl, here's a list of rumored song titles. Can you tell us which ones are bogus and which ones are real?
Ides Of March ('98), Oklahoma ('98), Atlas Shrugged ('99), Closing In On You ('99), Cock-A-Roach Soup ('99), Friend Or Foe ('99), Hearts Get Killed ('99), No Love Remains ('99), Oh My God ('99), Something Always ('99), Suckerpunched ('99), Zip It ('99), Silkworms ('00), Down By The Ocean ('01), Leave Me Alone ('02), Seven ('02), The General ('02), Thyme ('02), Quick Song ('05), Zodiac ('05), Motormouth ('06), We Were Lying ('06)


Axl: Ides Of March, Oklahoma, Atlas Shrugged, Oh My God, Silkworms , Down By The Ocean (Izzy), Leave Me Alone, Seven , The General , Thyme , Quick Song , Zodiac Most all titles subject to change w/out warning and r considered working titles.

DATE: Dec. 12, 2008
SOURCE: heretodaygonetohell.com

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gunns1: Hey Axl , whats your favourite song from either Chinese Democracy, or from an unreleased album?

Axl:The bridge in "Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul aka The Soul Monster (working title Leave Me Alone)" which will no doubt end up "Soul Monster".

I think it's r most Black Sabbath moment. Sang it on a Christmas eve. Imo the meanest section of anything I've sung to date. Which having said that I'm sure when it's heard others may disagree but we felt it was a Christmas card of unadulterated venom so to speak. I felt a lot better afterward.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Nata w Kwietnia 17, 2014, 10:55:17 pm
Mnie od dłuższego czasu zastanawiała nazwa Oklahoma, która wczesniejnosila tytuł Berlin i to mnie ciekawie dlaczego.
Poza tym bylabym ciekawa piosenki Thyme bo mi się tytuł podoba   :D
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Kwietnia 18, 2014, 08:52:26 am
Mnie od dłuższego czasu zastanawiała nazwa Oklahoma, która wczesniej nosila tytuł Berlin i to mnie ciekawie dlaczego.
Poza tym bylabym ciekawa piosenki Thyme bo mi się tytuł podoba   :D

Chyba raczej odwrotnie ?
Na początku była Oklahoma potem przemianowana na Berlin

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Question:-What's a Riad/Bedouin and can you clarify for the last time if the song is Oklahoma or not?

Axl : Another one step at a time question! It’s not Oklahoma which later became Berlin and subject to change.
DATE: Dec. 14, 2008
SOURCE: chinesedemocracy.com
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Korso w Kwietnia 19, 2014, 12:53:22 pm
Prawdopodobna okładka kolejnego albumu, z której można również wyczytać, że Chinese Democracy 2 jest tytułem nie tylko fanowskim, a prawdopodobnie oficjalnym. Do tego zauważyć możemy, że w ekipie GN'R nastąpiły pewne zmiany, między innymi oficjalny grafik zespołu. Pewnie część z Was widziała już okładkę wcześniej, ponieważ krąży ona po sieci od dłuższego czasu, ale jako, że powstał tutaj odpowiedni temat związany z albumem, postanowiłem to wrzucić.

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s119/brian0612/CD-II_Covercopy.png) (http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s119/brian0612/CD-II_Covercopy.png)


P.S: Jeśli przyjrzycie się linkowi możecie wyczaić kto jeszcze może mieszać w tej płycie. Poniżej wyróżniłem zaszyfrowane info.
http ://i150.photoBUCKET.com/albums/s119/BRIAN0612/CD-II_CoverCOPY.png
BUCKET - skrót od Buckethead
BRIAN - inaczej Bryan, Bryan "Brain" Mantia
COPY - "Copy of A", czyli singiel ostatniego albumu Nine Inch Nails. A więc logicznie wychodzi z tego, że również na CHD2 usłyszymy partie Robina Fincka

Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: hkt w Kwietnia 19, 2014, 01:21:20 pm
Ta tubka za Axlem to jakiś klej typu poxipol?
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Korso w Kwietnia 19, 2014, 01:26:45 pm
Tak, to metafora. Chodzi o to, że album jest tak dobry, że nie wypuścisz go z rąk.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Hubik w Kwietnia 24, 2014, 11:02:23 pm
Takie tam:

Guns N' Roses guitarist Richard Fortus reported this week that the group was "working on stuff." "Hopefully very soon we're going to have new stuff out," he told a BBC reporter at the Revolver magazine Golden Gods Awards in Los Angeles. "Well, in the next year." (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/new-guns-n-roses-music-may-arrive-in-the-next-year-guitarist-says-20140424)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Maja 18, 2014, 08:00:05 pm
Dodatkowo 2 tytuły które mi nic nie mówią, ale pojawiły sie na profilu fb gnr mexico
01. "Opiuchus"
02. "Forgotten"

podobno utwór "Forgotten" został napisany lub nagrany w 2010 r.
a utwór "Opiuchus" to inna nazwa "Zodiac"

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"Whether or not you believe that the position and relationship of the sun
 Be rest assured that the zodiac has begun" ...

 The song is now titled "Opiuchus".
(chinesedemocracy.com/forum/index.php/topic,46997.0.html)


Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Pyra w Maja 18, 2014, 08:08:01 pm
Forgotten, gdzieś już kiedyś na ten tytuł trafiłem...
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Maja 20, 2014, 02:03:35 pm
z krążących jeszcze po necie : (niepotwierdzonych)
1. Beta's Barn
2. Hungry



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Did you have any favorite song that not included in Chinese Democracy?

Chris Pitman:
Yes, we did have a large collection of songs recorded through the years, and many I don't even remember now! But to think of a favorite song right now as we speak, I would have to say its one called "Beta's Barn."

http://chinese-democracy.blogspot.com/2009/03/chris-pitman-interview.html (http://chinese-democracy.blogspot.com/2009/03/chris-pitman-interview.html)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Bender w Maja 20, 2014, 05:38:52 pm
Forgotten, gdzieś już kiedyś na ten tytuł trafiłem...

Odejmij "For".
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Pyra w Maja 20, 2014, 06:53:05 pm
Uprasza się o nierobienie ze mnie idioty :P

Żart ;)

Chodzi o rzekome utwory GNR z ery ChD, na bank gdzieś się natknąłem na ten tytuł.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Czerwca 10, 2014, 09:50:25 am
Wiem, że to nie jest super źródło - czyli Teraz Rock ale przytoczę cytat Axl'a:

"Nagraliśmy mnóstwo rzeczy, zanim "Chinese" zostało opublikowane. Pracowaliśmy ostatnio nad niektórymi z tych kawałków, a dodatkowo nanieśliśmy kilka nowych. Jednak mamy - jak ja to nazywam - drugą połowię "Chinese Democracy". Właściwie to już jest zarejestrowane. Później natomiast przygotujemy album z remiksami utworów z "Chinese". Z tym powinniśmy uporać się niedługo."

według TR - nowej płyty należy się spodziewać w 2015 roku.  ;)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Canis_Luna w Czerwca 10, 2014, 10:05:25 am
To co przytoczyłeś jest w temacie wywiadu z Revolver, którego udzielił Axl po Golden Gods. Zaskakująco nie zwrócił wielkiej uwagi forumowiczów ;) a przecież Axl tak rzadko się odzywa i na dodatek wspomniał o nowej płycie.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Nata w Czerwca 10, 2014, 10:09:52 am
bo dopiero od niedawna chyba jest przyklejony, zginal wczesniej w czelusciach. On od razu powinien byl byc przyklejony i wystawiony na glownej. Z informacji o koncercie Slasha powinien byc zrobiony baner z boku tak jak z koncertu Duffa. 
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Canis_Luna w Czerwca 10, 2014, 10:12:30 am
Po czwartku będzie można zastąpić Duffa Slashem :)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Czerwca 10, 2014, 01:06:51 pm
Zaktualizowałem cytaty i tytuły. Dziękuję za pomoc, szczególne podziękowania dla tłumaczy wywiadów. Bez Waszej ciężkiej, często niedocenianej!, pracy nie byłoby tego tematu. ( Inna sprawa, że nie byłoby też większości newsów, ale to akurat wiadomo. )
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Canis_Luna w Czerwca 10, 2014, 02:04:56 pm
W tej chwili pewnie największą nadzieją napełniają nas słowa Axla, bo przecież to chyba pierwszy raz, kiedy wypowiedział się dużo konkretniej o nowej płycie.
Co nie zmienia faktu, że może być nawet i nagrana w najbliższym czasie, ale jej wydanie to druga kwestia i na to też pewnie przyjdzie nam poczekać :P
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Czerwca 11, 2014, 07:19:59 am
ja jestem ciekaw, czy ChD Remix i ChD II wydadzą tak samo jak Use Your Illusion - tego samego dnia. To było by ciekawe. Chyba, że Axl dwupak wypuści... :) albo trójpak: ChD, ChD Remix, ChD II :P

Post Merge: Czerwca 11, 2014, 07:25:43 am
Axl:
We recorded a lot of things before Chinese was out. We’ve worked more on some of those things and we’ve written a few new things. But basically, we have what I call kind of the second half of Chinese. That’s already recorded. And then we have a remix album made of the songs from Chinese. That’s been done for a while, too. But after Vegas [Guns N' Roses is performing a residency at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino that runs through June 7], we’re going to start looking very seriously at what we’re doing in that regard.

http://www.stereogum.com/1685104/axl-rose-announces-chinese-democracy-sequel-remix-album/news/ (http://www.stereogum.com/1685104/axl-rose-announces-chinese-democracy-sequel-remix-album/news/)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Czerwca 11, 2014, 08:02:04 am
Cytat wrzuciłem już w wersji polskiej, bo wywiad był tłumaczony dla NTS. Czasem warto sprawdzić, co już jest, zanim zaczniemy szukać daleko :P
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Czerwca 11, 2014, 09:51:53 am
Może Axl zdecyduje sie umieścić cover "A Beer And A Cigarette" zespołu Hanoi Rocks ?
Podobno nagrany był na płytę "The Spaghetti Incident?" - ale nigdy nie opublikowany...
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Czerwca 18, 2014, 10:47:23 am
Według forumowiczów GNR Brazylia utwór Atlas Shrugged "podobno" ma 3 wersje:
1. Atlas Shrugged wersja Brian May (V1)
2. Atlas Shrugged wersja Brian May (V2)
3. Atlas Shrugged wersja Ron Thal

"Atlas Shrugged is a glam rock November Rain song".

(nie znam niestety na tyle portugalskiego by idealnie przetłumaczyć - korzystam z translatora)

Wersje gdzie jest Brian May obecne są na tym samym dysku tego klipu Jackie Chan...
Te 2 wersje Atlas są najrzadsze i krążą u małego grona ludzi.
W najbardziej rozpowszechnionej wersji  jest Bumblefoot.


Post Merge: [time]Czerwiec 18, 2014, 11:48:17 am[/time]
coś na potwierdzenie wersji, że Atlas był grany przez Bąbla:

On May 4, 2007 three more tracks leaked from Chinese Democracy; an updated version of "I.R.S.", "The Blues" and the title track. All three tracks had previously been played live. Guns N' Roses embarked on the 2007 leg of the Chinese Democracy World Tour in Mexico on June, followed by dates on Australia and Japan. The songs "Nice Boys" and "Don't Cry" were played for the first time since the Use Your Illusion Tour. The tour ended on the twentieth anniversary of Appetite for Destruction's release date, in Osaka. During this tour, the band featured Axl Rose, Robin Finck, Ron Thal and Richard Fortus on guitars, Tommy Stinson on bass, Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman on keyboards and Frank Ferrer on drums.
On May 10, the track "Atlas Shrugged" leaked, whith current guitarist Bumblefoot on lead guitar.

http://franship.blogspot.com/ (http://franship.blogspot.com/)

Post Merge: [time]Czerwiec 18, 2014, 12:01:16 pm[/time]
Three new previously unleaked new tracks leaked as well by the name 'If the World', 'Rhiad and the Beduoins' and an unknown track. On May 10, 2009, track "Atlas Shrugged" leaked onto the internet, in full. Billboard.com. Retrieved June 20, 2008.

Post Merge: Czerwca 19, 2014, 02:11:11 pm
Najprawdopodobniej to fan-made, ale trzeba przyznać, że jako okładka singla promującego nowy album byłaby ciekawa!

(http://i39.tinypic.com/30netxf.jpg)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Czerwca 21, 2014, 07:50:24 pm
Nazwy piosenek które "krążą" w sieci (niepotwierdzone / potwierdzone jako fake przez Axl'a)

- Atlantis
- Broken [allegedly mentioned by Frank Ferrer to a fan]
- Cuban Skies *
- Did I Ever
- Greenletter
- Heaven Is A Lonely Place For Two
- Light My Fire *
- Never Had It
- Monstrosity *
- Prosperous Chili
- Push
- Servitude
- Shameless
- Strange Disease
- Time *
- Today, Tomorrow, Forever
- Todd The Intern
- Tonto *
- Velvet Rope Dope
- Victory
- Wombasi

* - [mentioned by a fan along with other song titles, one of which (Going Down) was apparently confirmed by an October 2011 setlist and later by Ron during an online chat, and was finally confirmed in August 2013 through a leaked demo of the song]


FAKE

- Closing In On You [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Cock-A-Roach Soup [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Eulogy Of A Broken Heart [confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Friend Or Foe [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Hearts Get Killed [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Motormouth [allegedly first mentioned by Richard Fortus to Zero Magazine; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- No Love Remains [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Something Always [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Suckerpunched [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Take That [confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- We Were Lying [allegedly first mentioned by Dizzy in January 2006; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- When Love Collides [confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]
- Zip It [first mentioned in Kerrang! in August 1999; confirmed fake by Axl during an online chat]

źródło: chinesedemocracy.com

Post Merge: [time]Czerwiec 21, 2014, 08:11:01 pm[/time]
tytuł który się przewija od kilku lat
"This Life" Classic Rock Magazine / 2002

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i jeszcze jeden tytuł, który się przewinął
The Strange

istnieje 5 sekunowe nagranie które zostało upublicznione, ale czy to akurat jest ten kawałek ? :D

istnieje i zostało upublicznione 22 sekudnowe nagranie - głos jakby Axl'a ...
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Lipca 01, 2014, 11:32:03 am
Forgotten, gdzieś już kiedyś na ten tytuł trafiłem...


odniesienie : http://gunsnroses.com.pl/forum/guns-n39-roses/2011-8641/ (http://gunsnroses.com.pl/forum/guns-n39-roses/2011-8641/)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: guest2849 w Lipca 01, 2014, 12:00:40 pm
Wiedziałem,ze user daub jest nieocenionym na tym forum.Właśnie spisałem sobie utwory,które prawdopodobnie trafią na kolejną płytę lub część z nich!!!  :radocha:
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: eXtreme w Lipca 02, 2014, 12:48:28 pm
Według forumowiczów GNR Brazylia utwór Atlas Shrugged "podobno" ma 3 wersje:
1. Atlas Shrugged wersja Brian May (V1)
2. Atlas Shrugged wersja Brian May (V2)
3. Atlas Shrugged wersja Ron Thal

"Atlas Shrugged is a glam rock November Rain song".

(nie znam niestety na tyle portugalskiego by idealnie przetłumaczyć - korzystam z translatora)

Wersje gdzie jest Brian May obecne są na tym samym dysku tego klipu Jackie Chan...
Te 2 wersje Atlas są najrzadsze i krążą u małego grona ludzi.
W najbardziej rozpowszechnionej wersji  jest Bumblefoot.
Faktycznie tak nieliczni dysponują tym utworem? :???: :/
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Lipca 02, 2014, 07:56:08 pm
(https://d2g892zuoe3k49.cloudfront.net/50dcba68222766694d001021/619691972_700.jpg)

 :P

Post Merge: [time]Lipiec 02, 2014, 08:41:17 pm[/time]
A teraz na poważnie:

Down By The Ocean
First mentioned: 2001
Written by: Izzy (?)


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In '95, Duff and me recorded songs for the band. We made a tape that went nowhere. Then, a couple of months ago I have a message on my answering machine: 'Yo! It's Axl, I need a copy of the songs that you did.' There was one called 'Down by the Ocean' or 'Down by the Sea', they may have used it, I haven't come back to know nothing
(Izzy, Popular Magazine, 2001).


"
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In April, 1995, Duff calls me again: 'I'm trying to compose new songs for the guys in GN'R. Come and give me a hand.' It made five and that I'd left Guns but I said myself: 'Well shit, after all, why not?' Duff and I wrote ten pieces in the space of week. We even recorded them as demos."
 
- French Izzy interview, 2001
 

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Zodiac
First mentioned: 2005 (?)
Written by:

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'Zodiac', is described as an electronic, industrial song
. (Jeff Leeds, Sp1at Website, 2005)


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Thyme
First mentioned: 2003 (?)
Written by:


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[GNR] was sort of just work for hire. [...] I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. [...] A song called 'Seven,' which is the one [...] I actually wrote a guitar part [on]. There was one called 'Thyme,' one called 'The General,' one called 'Leave Me Alone'"
(Marco Beltrami, IGN, July 2003).

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"Leave Me Alone," "Seven," and "The General" could also feature on the new album. These three A-listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially "Seven," which Marco deems as the best of the three songs. It has also been reported that Marco worked on a fourth track, "Thyme." However, this song was not worked on subsequent to Marco's work in October 2002
(Jeff Leeds, Sp1at website, June 2005).

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The General
First mentioned: 1999 on MTV? (Source?)
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[GNR] was sort of just work for hire. [...] I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. [...]There was [...] one called 'The General,'
(Marco Beltrami, IGN, July 2003).

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"Leave Me Alone," "Seven," and "The General" could also feature on the new album. These three A-listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami
(Jeff Leeds, Sp1at website, June 2005).

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Well, this comes out on the third record. It relates to [Estranged], it's a trilogy, this goes with this lyrically
[Metal Edge, June 2007]

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You may have heard parts of it somewhere
[Axl's chat on the fan forums, 2008]

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The General is a really cool song, it's got an interesting vibe to it. Kinda like an urgy [?]
[Eat More Heat! Live Chat, March 2013]


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Ides of March
First mentioned: 2005 (?)
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[...] 'Ides of March' was a working title of one of the songs that came from a loop name that Dizzy came up with: I think they kept the name, but it's been years so I'm sure everything has changed by now."
(Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, July 2005)

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Atlas Shrugged
First mentioned: 2005 (?)
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Song doesn't have all that much to do with the book other than trying to do what you believe in and a line about shoulders not being wide enough
(Axl chats on the forums, December 2008)

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Whether Brian May will be featured: Perhaps on an alternate or bits, on that track it has more to do with recording issues and getting the mix to a good level
(Axl chats on the forums, December 2008)

Bumblefoot:
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I don't think we ever really finished that song. That would be the kinda thing where we'd have to get into the studio and lay some more tracks and just see where it goes and what state it is in
[Axl Rose Fa Clube, April 2014]

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Seven
Written by:


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"[GNR] was sort of just work for hire. [...] I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. [...] A song called 'Seven,' which is the one [...] I actually wrote a guitar part [on]. There was one called 'Thyme,' one called 'The General,' one called 'Leave Me Alone.'"
(Marco Beltrami, IGN, 07/20/03)

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"Leave Me Alone," "Seven," and "The General" could also feature on the new album. These three A-listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially "Seven," which Marco deems as the best of the three songs. It has also been reported that Marco worked on a fourth track, "Thyme." However, this song was not worked on subsequent to Marco's work in October 2002.
(Jeff Leeds, Sp1at website, 06/05)

Brain:
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ITS AN TIMELESS BALLAD WITH A BLOW YOUR FACE OFF CHORUS AND A SUCK YOUR BALL SACK BRIDGE!!!!!
[AFD interview, 2010]

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Berlin
Other names: Oklahoma
First mentioned: 2005 (?)
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"As the far as the songs go: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken). [...]
(Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05).

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[...] Song after song combines the edgy hard rock force and pop smarts of vintage Guns N Roses with surprisingly modern and ambitious music textures. In addition to the album's almost grungy title track, tentative song titles include 'Catcher in the Rye,' 'I.R.S,' 'The Blues', [...] 'Oklahoma' - heard tonight only as an instrumental, [...] and 'TWAT,' which he says stands for 'there was a time.'"
(Rolling Stone, 01/00).

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Talking about Riad And The Bedouins: It’s not Oklahoma which later became Berlin and subject to change
[Axl's chat on the fan forums, 2008]

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Soul Monster
Other names: Leave Me Alone, Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul.
Written by:

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"[GNR] was sort of just work for hire. [...] I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. [...] A song called 'Seven,' which is the one [...] I actually wrote a guitar part [on]. There was one called 'Thyme,' one called 'The General,' one called 'Leave Me Alone.'"
(Marco Beltrami, IGN, 07/20/03).

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"Leave Me Alone," "Seven," and "The General" could also feature on the new album. These three A-listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially "Seven," which Marco deems as the best of the three songs. It has also been reported that Marco worked on a fourth track, "Thyme." However, this song was not worked on subsequent to Marco's work in October 2002.
(Jeff Leeds, Sp1at website, 06/05)

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Blood In The Water
Written by:

Bumblefoot:
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Yeah, I don't know what Blood In The Water is, I don't think that is real. I think that is just people fucking with tracks and sounds and faking stuff. I don't remember playing on that one or even hearing that one. I think that one is a fake to be honest
[Eat More Heat! Live Chat, March 2013]

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Goin' Down (Going Down)
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Going Down is Chi Dem era, kinda earthy, but let Axwell talk about it when he's ready
[Live chat with Bumblefoot, 2012]

Bumblefoot:
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As far as Goin' Down, it's more of a slower, medium-paced, acoustic-y kind of...how would I describe that song? It almost reminds me of something that like Bob Dylan could have done in a way. Yeah
[Eat More Heat! Live Chat, March 2013]

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Better Gone
Written by:

Bumblefoot:
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Better Gone? I think that is just some mashup thing
[Eat More Heat! Live Chat, March 2013]

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wybrane cytaty ze strony http://www.a-4-d.com/t2206-the-unreleased-and-rumoured-songs-thread (http://www.a-4-d.com/t2206-the-unreleased-and-rumoured-songs-thread)

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Dec. 2008:- Axl Rose @ chinesedemocracy.com wrote:

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And Checkmate is a bogus title.
The working title is Jackie Chan

Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Lipca 15, 2014, 11:25:53 am
Dzięki za pomoc. Pierwszy post uzupełniony. Jeśli chodzi o Atlas Shrugged, to nie było przecieku, w każdym razie nie "ogólnodostępnego", na takiej zasadzie jak przeciekło swego czasu np. TWAT. Natomiast sam kawałek, mniej lub bardziej gotowy, chyba bardziej, skoro była możliwość, ze wrzucą go na CHD, jest w rękach nielicznej grupy, która wymieniała się jakiś czas temu piosenkami, przynajmniej wiele na to wskazuje. Istnieje możliwość, że kiedyś wycieknie, ale na razie bym na to nie liczył, bo większość ściemnia, że go ma, a ci, którzy faktycznie mają albo boją się udostępnić, albo nie czują takiej potrzeby, bo chcą go wymienić za coś, czego nie znają, co zresztą jest logiczne.
Osobiście nie słyszałem o trzech wersjach Atlasa, ale, biorąc pod uwagę to, że nieznane nam przecieki mają głównie Portugalczycy/Brazylijczycy, o czym kiedyś było głośno - wcale by mnie to nie zdziwiło.
Dziwi mnie natomiast to, że mimo, iż o skończonym Atlasie słychać niemal od wyjścia CHD to do sieci nie wyciekło żadne demo. Ale może, gdy Gunsi wrócą do koncertowania znów dojdzie do "przypadkowego przecieku" i tym razem "ofiarą" będzie Atlas.
Zobaczymy.


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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Lipca 16, 2014, 11:15:23 am
Rzekomy tekst Checkmate aka Jakie Chan

here's the rumored full lyrics:

All cautions made, every chance was given, no effort spared, to save what we had*
or it would take, away the light we given, once it is ours, were free from this land
dont ever expect me to turn up this late
Motherfuckers in game, it's Checkmate.

Interlude

As I then ran, as fast as i could, memories both friends, escaped from my hand
I've got a gun, now the bloods on my hands, everything you see is here till the end
dont ever expect me to turn up this late
Motherfuckers in game, it's Checkmate.

Guitar and Piano Solo


Lies that I've told, lies that I've given
Lies that I've sold, lies that have driven
Me mad to the top of my own head
Me mad to the top of my head
At night sugar, I'm sorry if i turn up late
Well now honey, my turn, Checkmate

All dozens slayed, every chance, one given, dont ever spin ,just say what we had
or it would take, away the light we given, once it is ours, were free from this land
dont ever expect me to turn up this late
Motherfuckers in game, it's Checkmate.

Outro
Guitar Solo
Piano Solo

All Thoughts in lane (all thoughts in lane)
every chance we gave (ever chance we gave)
dont ever spare (dont ever spare)
I'm here till the end (checkmate)
I'm here till the end
I'm here till the end


Źródło: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/157779-checkmate-2010/page-3 (http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/157779-checkmate-2010/page-3)

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Formalnie tylko:
uzupełnienie źródła dotyczącego utworu Oklahoma , potem znanego szerzej jako Berlin


Axl: I was sitting in my litigation with my ex-wife, and it was the day after the bombing. We had a break, and I'm sitting with my attorneys with a sort of smile on my face, more like a nervous thing - it was like, 'Forgive me, people, I'm having trouble taking this seriously.' It's just ironic that we're sitting there and this person is spewing all kinds of things and 168 people just got killed. And this person I'm sitting there with, she don't care. Obliterating me is their goal 
 [Axl Speaks, Rolling Stone, January 2000]

 Źródło: http://www.a-4-d.com/t143-oklahoma (http://www.a-4-d.com/t143-oklahoma)

Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Korso w Października 08, 2014, 03:39:38 pm
http://i55.tinypic.com/28b5wxy.jpg (http://i55.tinypic.com/28b5wxy.jpg)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Października 20, 2014, 10:57:46 am
Z tego co "wypłynęło" na światło dzienne odnośnie Chinese Democracy Remix

całe utwory:

Going Down - być może utwór ma znaleźć się na Chinese Democracy II ?

Better (DJ Ashba Mix)
 
Better (Bumblefoot Acoustic)

Better (Brain Remix)

Blood in the water


fragmenty kilkusekundowe (znane jako Leaked Clip):

Shackler's Revenge (Brain Remix)

This I Love (New Axl Vocals)

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This I Love has new vocals NOT new lyrics.
- New vocals include new melody line
- There is NO guitar solo
- Its not an alternate version, but more of a remix. It has a hip hop beat with Axl singing over it in a new way.
- I saw somewhere someone made a comparison of Dont Cry 2. I don't think that would be an accurate comparison


Hitman, moderator  forum  MSL

If The World (Brain Remix)

Oh My God (Buckethead Version)

Silkworms (Studio Version)

Mi Amour (Studio ?)

Ballad Of Death (Studio ?)


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Dj ASHBA™ : "I know there's rumors of a Guns N' Roses studio version of Ballad Of Death that got leaked, I am here to tell you that the so called "leaked" studio version floating around is NOT the real Guns N' Roses studio version nor is it me playing guitar on it. Hope this helps!"
(https://www.facebook.com/ashbaland/posts/10151826849512475, (https://www.facebook.com/ashbaland/posts/10151826849512475,) 9 grudnia 2013r.)

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Dj ASHBA™ :  "The actually studio version of Ballad Of Death has NOT left my studio. There are zero copies of it."
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: maxi023 w Października 20, 2014, 03:19:58 pm
Zapowiada się ciekawie. Dzięki Daub. Fajnie jakby zrobili remix TWAT i Better.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Śpiochu w Października 20, 2014, 07:39:49 pm
Dawac mi to na priva jakby ktos znalazl !
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: markopolo w Października 20, 2014, 08:07:32 pm
Daub zapomiał dodać że są to kilku sekundowe fragmenty. Mam do nich linki. priv
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Października 21, 2014, 07:30:35 am
Bumblefoot on Atlas Shrugged (from eat more heat,march 2013)

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"Atlas Shrugged, I was going to tell a little story about that song. Right now on my laptop, I actually have the old guitar solo that I played for that song, when, two days before the album was going to be mastered, I was like, let's see if we can squeeze it on to the album. I busted out some guitar tracks for it, I have my own studio...
 
But, because the CD could only be 74 minutes max, and it would've taken it past the limit of what a CD can store, we couldn't put Atlas Shrugged on Chinese Democracy. It wasn't worth making a two-CD album with just one song on the other CD, so hopefully, on ChiDem 2, it'll have Atlas Shrugged on there. Interesting song."

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/198096-bumblefoot-on-atlas-shrugged-from-eat-more-heatmarch-2013/ (http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/198096-bumblefoot-on-atlas-shrugged-from-eat-more-heatmarch-2013/)

Post Merge: [time]Październik 21, 2014, 07:33:15 am[/time]
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Q: Will Brian May appear on Atlas Shrugged?

A: Perhaps on an alternate or bits, on that track it has more to do with recording issues and getting the mix to a good level.
(Axl Rose, chinesedemocracy.com, Dec. 2008)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Października 24, 2014, 09:49:22 am
Someone @MyGNR met Ron recently at a Jakarta gtr clinic and asked him about Going Down.

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Q: Why don't you play some fresh GN'R stuff, like Atlas Shrugged or GD, or OMG?

Ron wrote:

Well, GN'R are Axl's stuff, and I don't wanna get into trouble by playing someone's stuff. Its just not mine. Well, the opening was made with me and robin and bucket tinkering it *play the intro of Going Down song* well, I am not supposed to say anything about the leaks, but, thats what i actually do, I talk, I break Axl's ball right now.

Q: Do you contribute much on CD album?

Ron wrote:

not quite, the songs were done, and my job is only creating Ice and Fire in several songs.

Q:Will [Going Down] be released officialy?

Ron wrote:

yeah, hopefully. It will be released, trust me.

Q:What happened to GNR in the first half of 2011? Guns seems so quiet, and I notice Axl is weaker than before.

Ron wrote:

we do nothing. I do my own stuff, and so the other band members. Oh, really axl is weaker? lets see in 2014 what he turns to. (this is interesting for me, could the 2013 breaks let Axl do some excersice and get him fit again?)

Post Merge: [time]Październik 24, 2014, 09:56:28 am[/time]
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Son of a Gun wrote:

Axl should write better lyrics and a chorus for Silkworms, mix and produce it properly, add guitars, change it`s name and put it on next album, it has potential to be a kickass, in your face, aggressive Industrial rocker.

Dexter wrote:

    Q: Is Silkworms on the next record?

    A: has a lot of guitars, lots of different drum the chorus is gone.
(Axl Rose, chinesedemocracy.com, Dec. 2008)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Ivellios w Października 26, 2014, 04:58:45 pm
@daub również będę wdzięczny za priva :P
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Października 27, 2014, 09:08:44 am
Rzekomy tekst utworu "The General" (który juz kilka lat w sieci sie pojawia)
[tak jak tekst Checkmate aka Jackie Chan - datowany na 2010 r.]

The General


Left right left, Left right left
We say left right, left right left

Oh my general we salute you
Defending our rights and doing the work you choose to
Well maybe its time to read between the lines
And figure out your design
And in due time we will have this war won

Watch out here he comes!

grab yourself a gun and run into the fields
using your men as human shields
fighting for yourself and no one else
against your general...against the general
ohh dying on the battle fields
he’s eating your brain as his meal
fighting for yourself and no one else
against your general...against the general

you can hear the battle cry as you watch the victims shattered eyes
you can smell the blood as it flows like a river...a river that holds strong ties
we can even watch all the sorrow and see how it all began on CNN
no one could ever predict it would come to this....this hit and miss
its time to start again

here it comes!

grab yourself a gun and run into the fields
using your men as human shields
fighting for yourself and no one else
against your general...against the general
ohh dying on the battle fields
he’s eating your brain as his meal
fighting for yourself and no one else
against your general...against the general

we can’t fight it
we just give in
all lives taken from women and children
we can fight it
we wont give in
we can defend this crazy world which we live in

oh this wars far from won
you better grab yourself a gun
and you could run into the feilds
eatin your brain for a meal
running into the jungles
will it end? do you ever wonder?
all this fighting in this century
do you you regret that you ever met me?....
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Ivellios w Października 27, 2014, 07:18:05 pm
Dzięki @daub.

No więc tak:

Mixy Evader'a sobie darowałem, po tym jak w "Prostitute" usłyszałem Lanę Del Rey... tylko "Silkworms" brzmi jakoś takoś bardziej autentycznie, ale podejrzewam że to też fałszywka zmontowana z jakiegoś bootlega Gunsów z dogranymi w studio przez fanów partiami instrumentalnymi.

"24 - If The World (Brain Remix) Leaked Clip" - IMO fejk, zawiera sample z queenowskiego "We will rock you".

"25 - Shackler's Revenge (Brain Remix) - Leaked Clip" - IMO również fejk, wystarczyło wziąć wokal Axla z gry Rock Band i dograć podkład.

"29 - Silkworms - Leaked Clip" - brzmi na autentyk :D Podobnie jak większość niewymienionych nagrań.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: slasherr w Października 27, 2014, 07:42:38 pm
"24 - If The World (Brain Remix) Leaked Clip" - IMO fejk, zawiera sample z queenowskiego "We will rock you".

"25 - Shackler's Revenge (Brain Remix) - Leaked Clip" - IMO również fejk, wystarczyło wziąć wokal Axla z gry Rock Band i dograć podkład.

"29 - Silkworms - Leaked Clip" - brzmi na autentyk :D Podobnie jak większość niewymienionych nagrań.
To nie fejki
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Śpiochu w Października 28, 2014, 07:56:48 am
Te leaked klipy niestety brzmia jak fejki. A nawet jesli to jie kupilbym ChD w wersji Braina... nie moja bajka
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Października 29, 2014, 07:30:40 pm
Rzekomy singiel promujący  (datowany na 2012r.)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/ieqfkg.jpg)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: markopolo w Października 29, 2014, 08:08:02 pm
fake.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Pyra w Października 29, 2014, 09:01:09 pm
Napisze ktoś do mnie na priv? :D
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Listopada 03, 2014, 11:48:40 am
Oh My God

Axl: The chorus: OH MY GOD etc. deals with the societal repression of deep and often agonizing emotions - some of which may be willingly accepted for one reason or another - the appropriate expression of which (one that promotes a healing, release and a positive resolve) is often discouraged and many times denied. Emotionally the song contemplates several abstract perspectives drawing from personal expression as well as from the film (End Of Days) and its metaphors. The appropriate expression and vehicle for such emotions and concepts is not something taken for granted.

Musically the song was primarily written by Paul Huge over two years ago, with Dizzy Reed writing the musical hook of the chorus. Former member Duff McKagan as well as former employee Matt Sorum failed to see its potential and showed no interest in exploring, let alone recording the piece. When the demos were played for the new band, Josh, Tommy and Robin were as they say 'all over it.'

Once the opportunity was presented, the song was given priority in our recording process. As the verse, performance and lyrics were decided on, for us (that especially includes Interscope chairman Jimmy Iovine) the choice became obvious. We were more than pleased Mr. Roswell (the film's music supervisor) agreed! Our thanks to Arnold and all for the consideration - it is an association in which we have always felt honored.

Paul Huge, Gary Sunshine and Dave Navarro appear on the song as well as Robin Finck. Robin's part was written by Paul and extensively manipulated by our producer, Sean Beaven. Robin was not involved in the writing of the final recording though did participate in the arrangement. All lyrics were written by myself. Additional programming (jack boots, screeching tires, etc.) was by Stuart White.

The fight of good vs. evil, positive vs. negative, man against a seemingly undefeatable, undeterrable, unrevealed destiny, along with the personal and universal struggle to attain, maintain and responsibly manage freewill can be and often is frustrating to say the least. In America our country's constitutional right to freedom of expression gives us a better chance to fight for that expression than many in other countries enjoy. It can be a big gig, like kickin' the crap outta the devil! [Axl's MTV Fax - Sep 22, 1999].

Axl: So in that sense, I think it is like old Guns N' Roses as far as, like, the spirit and the attempt to throw all kinds of different styles together. If you get to the second guitar solo in 'Oh My God,' Paul's doing a very Izzy Stradlin-Aerosmith-type riff in the middle of the song, which is a completely different thing than everything else that's going on in the music, but yet it blends. There's a disco drum beat in the post-chorus, in the heaviest section of the song. We blended a lot of things [Axl Rose - A conversation with Kurt Loder, MTV US November 8th 1999].

Robin: We recorded a lot of cool songs and potential tracks [...] I hope [Oh My God] is not very typical of them [Hartford Courant, May 2000].  

Slash: I actually heard it when I went to see End Of All Days at the movie theater. I didn't think much of it. My position of this is that I am dying to listen to what Axl will put out next, the stuff that more or less precipitated the split of Guns And Roses. Not that I mean bad or reject completely something I have no part of. After all, Axl and I, we could go at it but we could also share the same vision. We had a tendency of leading toward against nature association, messing around with the line up by integrating elements estranged from Rock music. So, when I left, I felt at peace with myself. And when I heard Oh My God, it comforted me that I didn't leave Guns And Roses on a whim [Hard Rock Magazine, October 2000].  

Axl, being asked why it sounds like a demo:  Because that's all it was, only at the time having just got it together only Jimmy Iovine knew that who wanted it to sell their soundtrack. I saw segments of the movie which were good. As a whole later not so much but it wasn't ready yet then. I did write an experimental piece inspired by the bits I'd seen called "Daddy Can the Devil do Mommy and me?" [chinesedemocracy.com, December 13, 2008].

Axl, being asked about the future of the song: There’s a remix w/lots of new vocals and a wilder guitar intro but it’s not taken all that seriously [chinesedemocracy.com, December 14, 2008].

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DJ Ashba
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Well, we hope so. That’s our main focus. Lack of songs is not our problem. It’s just getting into the studio. And there’s been more and more talk about getting in there before the end of the year, which I’m really excited about. [...] The stuff I’ve written sounds like classic Guns N’ Roses. It’s very much what I grew up on, what I loved about the band. So that’s kind of the direction that my songs. [...] Axl, of course, has, I believe, two complete albums worth of songs already recorded and probably a shit-load of other stuff I’ve never heard. He’s played me quite a bit of stuff that’s phenomenal, and, hopefully, I can get my hands on it and put my little stamp on it, before all is said and done [Guitar International, October 2014]
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Dobrze sformatowany tekst - dzięki  ;)
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Tommy
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We have dates in October, November, and then I'm still waiting to get the 411 on what will happen next year. I think the next thing is really going to have to be someone trying to organize a record and getting it together. I think there's a really good band there to do it. But, you know, the thought of it is more daunting than a 'Mats or a Soul Asylum record combined [May 2011]

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Next album not in production...yet. Let's get all the shows outta the way [September 2011]

DJ Ashba
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Being asked if more material will be released: Absolutely, yeah absolutely, that's our main focus with it right now. Obviously with me being a song writer and producer [October 2011]

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I'm writing around the clock, obviously. Axl has tons of songs up his sleeve. The main goal is to regroup, put our heads together and figure out what Axl would feel would be the next best Guns N' Roses record to put out. [...] Obviously Guns N' Roses, we have more tours and stuff [in 2012]; we're talking about and putting together this record [November 2011]

Dizzy
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We haven't really talked a lot about that. There's a lot we've recorded, a lot of material back when we started working on 'Chinese Democracy,' so there's a quite a bit of unreleased stuff that would be really cool to finish and put out. [...] everyone has great ideas and songs and stuff, so we're always sort of bouncing stuff off each other. I'm recording stuff all the time; I'll record something and say, 'Hey, this might be cool' and play it for everybody and just kind of go from there. I think eventually something's got to give, and then it's gonna come out [November 2011]

Tommy
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There’s nothing etched in stone, but I can see us go into a writing mode in the new year. If there’s gonna be a new record, we’re going to have to start working some stuff out. But it’s just talk right now [December 2011]

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Paraphrased: The hope is to write new songs next year and move forward with GNR. There are songs left over from the "Chinese Democracy" sessions that are almost ready to go and could be polished up for potential release. Who knows, maybe there will be Chinese Democracy 2. Who knows? [December 2011]

Cytuj
Axl and I get along pretty good, and now is kind of the time to stick it out if we're going to make another record [December 2011]

Axl
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We're gonna be busy — we're gonna be busy all next year. We'll be putting out new stuff as soon as we can figure out what our deal is with labels, blah blah blah [December 2011]

Tommy
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With Guns, I'd like for them to get back in writing mode and see if there's another record to put out [December 2011]

Richard
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[...] we are going to be finishing up the next Gn’R record [December 2011]

DJ
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I can't give anyone a definite date or anything because, again, I can't give anyone false hope, but I can say it absolutely is our main priority. And I cannot wait to get...I mean, Axl has tons and tons of stuff recorded as it is, I mean, he sits there in his hotel room and play me hours of stuff. And I've written, you know, over 10 songs, for -- I think 12 songs now -- for him that he really likes and I think that once we all, now that we are off tour, we're gonna kinda start talking about, hey, let's piece together what we feel would be the next best Guns N' Roses record. You know, it's absolutely everybody's goal to get out an album, you know, within a reasonable amount of time. That is everybody's focus [January 2012]

Dizzy
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There are some clamoring and rumors that we might be getting some material together here after we do this little (theater) run, so we'll see what happens. I just go with the flow. I'm always recording and stuff. If it happens it will be really fun and cool. I love creating stuff with all the guys. And there was so much material that didn't make it onto ('Chinese Democracy'). From what I remember there were a lot of really cool songs; I can only hope that some of that stuff does resurface and get worked out [February 2012]

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Being asked about them working on a new record: I keep hearing that, so I’m going to go along with that and say, “Yeah.” [...] There’s been talk. I know that [guitarist] DJ [Ashba] and Axl have been kicking back and forth some stuff and we talked about it a little bit, but I’ve heard that there’s plans... to sit down at some point in time ...and start working some stuff up. So if that happens, great. I don’t want to jinx it though [February 2012]

Tommy
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I would like to put out more than one album in 14 years. I’m all about “Chinese Democracy” but I want new Guns N’ Roses songs

DJ
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That’s what gets me excited about being in the band - knowing that we have a really great shot at putting out something that’s just going to blow people’s mind. So, that’s the number one priority for everybody at this point [March 2012]

Bumblefoot

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Being asked who he'd like to make music with: Last year I released “The Pink Panther Theme” and it has pretty much all the members of the band except Dizzy, Chris and Axl. Although I’d like to do something with *all* of them (laughs)! Yes, the next people I’d like to make music with, would be my band and my singer. I would like to be writing, recording and putting out music with Axl, Tommy, Frank, Richard, DJ, Chris and Dizzy. That’s what I’d like to be doing. I feel that the current band is so strong and has so much to offer that we should really be writing songs, together [April 2012]

Richard:
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In May, I go back to Europe with Guns and luckily, Thin Lizzy is going to be out with us, which is going to be awesome. They’re going to be supporting us so I’ll be able to play a couple of songs with them every night. But I’ll be out with Guns in May, June and July and then we have to finish up some more recording and hopefully get the record out and be on tour in the fall in the States I’m hoping [April 2012]

Tommy
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Now I must start getting my shit together for the European GNR tour. I’ll be looking forward to working up some new long over due GNR rock soon. See y’all on the road! [May 2012]

DJ
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Hopefully soon! That’s our goal right now: to work on the new record and get out and tour a bunch more. We’re leaving in May for Europe for two-and-a-half months, and I know we’ll get a lot of stuff done on the road [May 2012]

Cytuj
Yeah we have and it has become one of our main focuses. We’re working on a lot of new stuff, not only for the music but we have surprises on this tour and everyone is looking forward to getting out there and putting on a kick ass rock ‘n’ roll show. The most important thing is that I’m really looking forward to the future with this band. Getting in and writing with everybody and that’s what I’m excited about the most but when it happens has still to be decided [May 2012]

Dizzy
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Being asked about working on a new record: Well between the six or seven or eight of us, we all live in different cities so it is really hard for us just to sit down and get to work [laughs] but now that we’re altogether out here for a couple of months then that is something that will come up hopefully. I’m always into trying out new material and recording new stuff. I’ve worked with DJ a little bit in the studio off and on here and there and I’m always recording stuff, ready to play it for people to get their take and their spin on it. I know everyone else is the same boat, I think we all have something set aside or maybe everything set aside for Guns N’ Roses so when it happens it will happen. [...] I think our priority right now is the tour and giving people the best, most kick ass show they can get every night.[EspyRock, May 2012]

Richard
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I am pretty much focused on GN'R right now. We're getting ready to go back into studio. so that's where my head's at right now. That's all I wanna think about till end of year, pretty much [RockNLive, June 2012]

Bumblefoot
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When this tour ends, Frank (drums) and Tommy (bass) and I plan to get together and start writing some new music. Hopefully nothing will get in the way of doing that [Teraz Rock Magazine, July 2012]

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Heeeeey! Just got home from a three-month European tour with GNR, slowly getting over that weird transition back to ‘normal life’, haha, ready to start being creative. I’ll be writing and recording and releasing and producing and guesting and teaching, maybe some light gigging, doing whatever I can before having to press the pause button on it all and hit the road again. I was planning on writing instrumental guitar music but every time I have a song idea I start thinking of vocal melodies and lyrics, gaaaaahhhh!!!!!

Richard
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We are writing and trying out new songs [translated from Norwegian] [NRK, October 2012]

DJ
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[The Vegas residency] is the first time we're all gonna be in the same place for a month solid and that will be, and already has been talked about, our main focus. So I think we're gonna get a lot of done. [...] There's a lot of stuff recorded and I think it's just a matter of sitting down and working together as a band, putting together what we feel is gonna be the next best Guns N' Roses record. And I can't wait; I'm so excited to dive even deeper into that [Rolling Stone, October 2012]

Dizzy
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We’ve been kicking some ideas around. We have some time off in Vegas. Hopefully we’ll be able to organize ourselves to get in a room and continue to refine a lot of those ideas and see what happens. I think as a whole this particular lineup has never really written together. We have in smaller groups…it could be great, it could be a disaster, you never know. We have three guitar players. You have three guitar players in a room together it’s always going to be volatile, but I shouldn’t say that because those guys are great. They actually work really great together, and they’re all so good. They’re the top of the heap, and for them to be able to work things out and present it the way we do every night live, it’s pretty amazing. I’m sure we can harness that energy and that vibe and get stuff recorded [vegas.com, October 24, 2012]

Axl
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All the guys are writing, and we recorded a lot of songs over the years. We'll figure out what we feel best about [USA Today, October 2012]

Dizzy
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We had a lot of stuff that we haven’t finished from the past, some great songs… I just hope it won’t take us to another 10 years [Jakarta Post, December 2, 2012]

Bumblefoot
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I know Axl wants to [release more music]. It’s just a question of,with so many outside things breaking focus and just little fires you always need to put out, we just need to focus on that. I’m hoping that we do. We’re not getting younger, and neither are our fans. Let’s do this. [Metal Mayhem Magazine, November 2012]
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Bumblefoot:
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We’ve spoken a lot about it. It’s just a question of – I wouldn’t even say the planets aligning; That’s a little extreme as far as a metaphor – but I think we just need to have nothing else going on to where we can just focus on making new music and putting it out. There’s such strong people in the band. Dizzy is a great singer and songwriter. DJ – a great songwriter. Pitman is a great singer and songwriter. Frank is a great drummer. Tommy, he’s a great singer and songwriter. Richard, he’s a great player, songwriter. We have all the parts of the machine there. All we have to do is assemble that machine and hit the on switch
[Boomerocity, January 2013]

Cytuj
There’s been talk all the time within us about the next album and what we’re going to do and when we’re going to do it. But you know, life always gets in the way. Things get in the way. It’s hard to have the momentum and the focus and everything that you need. It’s hard to put everything aside and do a whole album. Personally, I don’t want to do an album. I would like to just do a song. Let’s just bite off a song and get a song out there and then bite off another song and get that out there. It’s easier to do. Look, waiting for an album to get done is just too much. I can’t do it myself. If I waited to finish an album, it still wouldn’t be done and the album still wouldn’t be out. When there’s so much touring and so much other stuff going on, don’t try and take on 14 songs. Do a song, then another song, then another song and then figure it out from there
[Hot Metal, February 2013]

Cytuj
You know what, just forget about a new record till it happens. I mean, I can't even begin...how long have we been talking about a new fucking record? And I am the only one that doesn't bullshit you people about it, and I say "No, we haven't been in the studio together," "No, we haven't started writing together as a band". If something came out at this point it would be very old material that would be released now, so it would be unheard material but to me I don't consider that a new record, I consider that just releasing old material from a band that doesn't exist any more. And we need to make an album of this band right now. I just texted...hit up Axl again two days ago, "Hey, while we're in Australia, let's make some music, let's work on some stuff". We'll see what happens. I am all about making music. That's why I make music, to make music. So I'd like to really do that. I would be very happy if Guns N' Roses could do that. We'll see what happens. That's all I can say. At this point we're just doing shows, and doing shows, and doing shows, and the shows are great and we're having fun and everything, but I've got the itch. I've had the itch for a long fucking time. I want to make some music with these motherfuckers. It's a damn good band, and we should really have the opportunity to give what we can to all of you and make some music for you. If anyone reads any of my long-ass interviews where I am ranting like I do now, you know how I feel about it, and that's what I am about. It's not up to me, it's gotta be unanimous, so I hope unanimously at some point everyone says, "Alright, let's just put life to the side, everything to the side, and focus on this and make it happen and make some music together." I think it would be fucking great and I hope it happens. But as far as seeing a new album in the future, I don't see it in the near future, no, it's going to be a while...if it is going to be with this band writing from the beginning. There's reality for you. I wish I had something better I could tell you guys because we all want the same thing, we want new music, me and you
[Eat More Heat! Live Chat, March 2013]

Axl:
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On whether we will hear new music in 2013: I can give you a definite maybe
[Adelaide Now, March 6, 2013]

Dizzy:
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A new album will be on the way soon, since ‘soon’ isn’t really an exact given or assigned amount of time
[Khaleej Times, March 31, 2013].

Tommy:
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We need to start thinking about making a new record. You know, it’s due. We’ve been travelling around the world and touring behind this one record for long enough. I really don’t know if there’s a lot more touring we can do behind this record that we haven’t done already ... twice even! It’s probably a good time to get back and write some new songs. [...]

I think when we get back Stateside, we only have some small weekend runs for a while ... I think that should give people time to write some new material. [...]

The music cuts through the bullshit, that’s how Guns n’ Roses works. But I don’t think we would need to spend that amount of time to make another record. The reason we took such a long time was because Axl was kind of assembling a band as the (Chinese Democracy) album was being made ... so you had a lot of guys coming in and things changing.

Hopefully , each of us will write a song or two, throw them in the mix, then we all get together in one studio ... in short span of time, hopefully. That would be the goal. No one has 10 more years to spend making a record, you know. [...]

That’s the hard part with everyone scattered about ... I live in Hudson, New York, (guitarist) DJ Ashba lives in Las Vegas (Nevada) and Axl lives in Malibu (California). You know, if everyone wrote one song and we went and recorded those eight songs, we would have more than an album’s worth of material. We have some leftover tunes from the last record. We could feasibly make a record quickly ... it could happen. But we’ll just have to accept it: our art is as big a stumbling block as anything
[The Star, March 31, 2013].

Richard:
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[...] we are doing some dates sporadically, but we are trying to focus more on getting the next record ready, the next G ‘n R record. So, the touring has not been steady, and it won’t be for a while. [...] We are working on [the next record]! Hopefully within the next year we will have something out.
[The Rck Pit, March 2013]

Tommy:
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My goal for the new year is that there's going to be [...] a Guns N' Roses record, just throwing it out there. [On whether it is this year or next year] You know what, either way, either of those can happen, either or both can happen, I would be happy for that
[CD102.5 The Alternative Station, April 2013].

Richard:
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we are preparing to record some new stuff. [...] We're working on it! [...]
[Dead Daisies Facebook page, April 2013].

DJ:
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Been locking myself in ASHBALAND Studios, writing n recording my ass off! Coming up with sic shit!! #inspired #conquertheworld
[Facebook, April 22, 2013]

Cytuj
What do you think - Dizzy Reed and Dj ASHBA™ at Welcome To Ashbaland studios - hard at work or hardly working?
[Facebook, April 30, 2013]

Cytuj
Being asked what's in store for 2013: Well, right now, I am just in the studio writing every day. I am writing every free moment I have. Since I've been off tour I've just locked myself in the studio. Axl's coming out in about a week and, yeah, we're just gonna have fun and hopefully get in the studio and make some magic.
[In The Now, May, 2013]

Dizzy:
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It’s just kind of hard to say really. I guess just because really everyone in the band now comes from different places. It’s going to be a band effort. At the end of the day you have good songs, no matter how they’re done. They are good songs and if Axl sings them, it’s going to be Guns N’ Roses. Everyone has just kind of been writing and passing some stuff around and, you know, that’s pretty much where we’re at right now, just compiling stuff for the new record before we go in and start tracking it.
[Lubbock Online, May 2013]



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Bumblefoot:
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Being asked when the next record is coming out: The most-asked question, yes. I can't predict that, and I'm not going to try to predict that. What I've wanted to do was put out one song every time we do a leg of touring - get together in the studio a week before, write and record a song, release it, play it on that tour, and do that every time. We would have had an album of music released by now if we did that, a little at a time, where it's easier to take on those small pieces than bite off the entire album-creating process at once. If I controlled the Universe that's what I'd have us do, haha.
[The Telegraph Calcutta, June 5, 2013]

Cytuj
Being asked if they are working on a new record: We're all songwriters. Hopefully this year we'll be able to put our ideas together and make a new album. We all talk about doing it, and are looking forward to it.
[The Telegraph Calcutta, June 5, 2013]

Dizzy:
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Talking about the rest of the CD material: You know it would be a shame if they don’t [come out]. There’s a lot of great material there. It will come out at some point. There are so many different formats that a record release isn’t a big thing anymore—movies, TV, shows, etc. We do finally have a great cohesive band, and as a band, we wanted to finish some things up that we started. So yes, there is quite amount of material that has not been released and it would be great to have people hear it soon.
[The Examiner, June 2013]

Cytuj
Talking about releasing a new record: We have been talking about it a lot. We have been kicking back ideas while on the tour bus—so it’s definitely in the works.
[The Examiner, June 2013]

Bumblefoot:
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Being asked when we can expect a new GN'R album or new music: Most asked question :)Wish I had an answer! Can't predict Sad
[twitter, June 2013]

Cytuj
We’ve got some shows coming up in July and I hope we will write some new stuff this summer. It’s been too long.
[Deccan Herald, June 17, 2013]

Richard:
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Working on new stuff now [for GN'R]. So I'm trying to balance all this out. So far it's worked out alright. So far everything is good. Actually, Guns wanted to be touring right now in South America and I'd already committed to [The Dead Daisies], so we had to postpone that to next year, but I'm hoping that we get an album out very soon.
[Noise 11, November 18, 2013]

Dizzy:
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[A new record] is in the works. Right now, things are on hold for a little bit as far as playing. I think they're getting tracks together.
[Noise 11, November 18, 2013]

Richard:
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We are working on stuff and hopefully very soon we're going to have new stuff out. Well, in the next year. [...] We're going to be in Vegas all together, so hopefully during that time we're going to be able to get in a room and start laying down some more stuff.
[Billboard, April 24, 2014]

DJ:
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We have tons of material, you know. Before I even joined the band there was three albums [...], tons of songs already recorded that Axl's been playing [with?]. Of course, I am a writer, everybody in the band writes so everybody has their own pile of songs, too, so lack of material isn't our problem, you know, it is taking all the material we have and making sense of it and fitting it into what we think would be a kick-ass album
[Talking Metal, April 2014]

Dizzy:
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There’s a sh*tload of [unreleased material]. It’s there. It’s just a matter of—once it gets to a certain point, I’m not sure who’s going to make that decision, but there are songs that are done or close to being done that just need to be selected and grouped together and released. That’s where things are at with that
[Las Vegas Weekly, May 2014].

Axl:
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We recorded a lot of things before Chinese was out. We've worked more on some of those things and we've written a few new things. But basically, we have what I call kind of the second half of Chinese. That's already recorded. And then we have a remix album made of the songs from Chinese. That's been done for a while, too. But after Vegas, we're going to start looking very seriously at what we're doing in that regard
[Revolver Magazine, May 2014]

DJ:
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Axl talked about CDII being "already recorded", do you know if it is completely mixed and mastered and ready for the shelves, and did you contribute to it? It is not ready to hit shelves but whatever we release next i will be apart of
[Live chat, May 2014]

Dizzy:
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I really hope that [a new record] happens this year and there’s still a lot of time left, so let’s just shoot for that
[Metal Insider, June 2014]

Cytuj
That's the plan, although we haven't really discussed it for a while. There's a lot of stuff people need to hear that's ready to come out. It's gonna happen, I just don't have an actual date for you yet. My fingers are crossed, but they're getting a little bit looser. I think it'll be happening soon
[The Rock Revival, June 2014]

Cytuj
There is a lot of stuff in the can and a lot of stuff that needs to come out and will come out. I think it’s just finishing touches on a few things. It’s getting the right songs to put out in the right package. It’ll come out when it’s ready to come out, but it’s definitely there.
[The HUB, September 2014]

DJ:
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We are planning on doing quite a bit of touring [in 2015]. The focus is getting in a studio and putting together what we all feel is the best Guns N’ Roses record. Lack of material is not an issue. We have tons of stuff. Axl has two full albums that he has recorded, he has played me a bunch of songs off of that, are incredible! I can’t wait to get in and kind of dive into those as well. I’ve written tons of songs & demoed up a bunch of stuff. I think it is just a matter of getting in & sifting through the piles of material
[Legendary Rock Interviews, September 2014].

Cytuj
Well, we hope so. That’s our main focus. Lack of songs is not our problem. It’s just getting into the studio. And there’s been more and more talk about getting in there before the end of the year, which I’m really excited about. [...] The stuff I’ve written sounds like classic Guns N’ Roses. It’s very much what I grew up on, what I loved about the band. So that’s kind of the direction that my songs. [...] Axl, of course, has, I believe, two complete albums worth of songs already recorded and probably a shit-load of other stuff I’ve never heard. He’s played me quite a bit of stuff that’s phenomenal, and, hopefully, I can get my hands on it and put my little stamp on it, before all is said and done
[Guitar International, October 2014]

Dizzy:
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There's a lot of material that's already done and I think it's in the process of being finished and eventually we'll pick out which songs need to come out with which other songs. So that's in the works. Hopefully it will be out really soon
[VH Radio Network, October 2014]

Cytuj
We've all been at it. We've all been, you know, handing files back and forth to one another in various combinations of different people, but also there is quite a bit of material that still needs to be finished and needs to be released. And so one or both of those things is gonna happen
[Pulse of Radio, October (?) 2014]
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Mam nadzieję, że nikt Twojego posta nie zacytuje...  :rolleyes:
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Wg strony  Axl Rose Fan Club piosenka The General została wykonana podczas próby Video Music Awards w 2002 roku - podobno kilkoro ludzi ma ten materiał.

Piosenka Checkmate aka Jackie Chan została napisana przez Axla oraz Robina Fincka i nagrana w 2002 roku.
Podobno MSL ma całą piosenkę, podobno również sprzedał ją komuś za 8 milionów dolarów.

[tyle z tego co wyczytałem z translatora, resztę czyli cały materiał znajdziecie tu: https://sites.google.com/site/axlrosefaclube/trilogia-de-chinese-democracy ]
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Grudnia 05, 2014, 10:45:46 am
Czyli po tym, co powiedział Richard - wniosek jest jeden:
wszystkie nazwy utworów jakie się pojawiały w sieci nie są aktualne (albo w większej mierze nie aktualne)

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There's some really good stuff. My favourite one is a track, I don't know if it has a title, but it is one that Robin Finck wrote, and it's fantastic. [Being asked if it is Soulmonster]. No, this one hasn't leaked at all. There's a lot that hasn't leaked. Thank God
[Intimate workshop with Richard, November 2014].
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Korso w Grudnia 08, 2014, 09:35:39 pm
Fortus:

"I know this week he’s [GUNS N’ ROSES singer Axl Rose] recording a lot of stuff, vocally."

"The way [Axl] generally works is that he doesn’t wanna take an idea that DJ sent and… What he’ll do is he’ll take a little piece that I sent, he’ll take a little piece that DJ sent on another track, and he’s always done that. Back even with the 'Appetite [For Destruction]' stuff, he would take a little bit from this, a little bit from that, and then put it together. And when you listen to it, you can sort of hear it. When you listen to the tracks, you can hear that it’s… Especially on 'Illusions' [the 'Use Your Illusion' albums], the opuses, [where] he took little bits from different people and put them together. He’s got a real talent for that.”

Ashba:

“Axl has two full albums that he has recorded. He has played me a bunch of songs off of that that are incredible! I can’t wait to get in and kind of dive into those as well. I’ve written tons of songs and demoed up a bunch of stuff. I think it is just a matter of getting in and sifting through the piles of material.”


http://www.gunsnrosesfans.com/post/104393700089/guitarist-richard-fortus-confirms-axl-rose (http://www.gunsnrosesfans.com/post/104393700089/guitarist-richard-fortus-confirms-axl-rose)
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Talking about music they have worked on: A lot of the new stuff that we've been working on, that, you now, some of the stuff that we've come in from nothing, and some of the stuff is stuff that we've been working on that were ideas that were there. Some of the stuff Slash did, that was like the beginning of, the seed of the song, you know, that's been around for long .

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Being asked about writing new music: Dj and I have worked on stuff. Nobody's worked on stuff with Ron


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There's so much stuff that's recorded. There is so much stuff that was done. I mean, there's three albums' worth of material, easy.

 
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Being asked if Axl has sung on those three albums worth of material: Some of them, yeah, and some of them he is doing as we are here, 'cause I know this week he's recording a lot of stuff, vocally


[Intimate guitar workshop with Richard, November 2014].
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Grudnia 22, 2014, 09:17:51 am
Troszke takie gdybanie.... ale może faktycznie w 1998 powstał "Jackie Chan"

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March 12th 1998

New GN'R song out on March 20th ?
 
Yesterday a friend told me that a new song by GN'R (probably not a cover) will be released on the 20th of March. This previously unreleased song will appear on the soundtrack for the Jackie Chan movie "A Nice Guy". The song was recorded before Slash left the band.
 
True or false? We'll have the answer soon...
 
source: "Tver" (a GN'R fan)


http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52838/March12_98.html (http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52838/March12_98.html)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Grudnia 29, 2014, 10:22:36 am
Bumblefoot also discussed the recently leaked song called ‘Going Down,’ which reportedly features Guns N’ Roses bassist Tommy Stinson on lead vocals and Axl Rose on backing vocals:
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“Yeah, I’m aware that some stuff did leak,” he began. “You know what? Here’s the problem. And this is why I say that I am also a bigger pain in the ass to Axl, because when it comes to something like this, when something leaks, that is an illegal activity which could possibly, depending, lead to legal [issues], in which anything I say could be used against [us]. So when something leaks, it’s very important to say nothing because it could affect legal issues, and it’s better not to talk about that. But I tend to talk…”


http://allaxess.com/news/ron-bumblefoot-thal-on-leaked-guns-n-roses-material/ (http://allaxess.com/news/ron-bumblefoot-thal-on-leaked-guns-n-roses-material/)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Maja 27, 2015, 09:15:15 am
Izzy Stradlin
"Down By The Ocean"

Hmmm da da da

He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down off the main road by the hill
Takes what he finds and eats it right there
Makes what he can with what he will

He don't ride the bus
They don't let him drive
There he walks for miles, a day
Cause he ain't got no ride

He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down by the sea side at the hill
Palm trees it ain't the beauty look, good though
Eventhough he looks pretty ill

He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down by the sea side at the hill
Palm trees it ain't the beauty look, good though
Eventhough he looks pretty ill

He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down by the sea side at the hill
Palm trees it ain't the beauty look, good though
Eventhough he looks pretty ill
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Maja 27, 2015, 09:27:27 am
"Down by the ocean" pod tytulem "Box" ukazala sie na plycie Izziego "Fire" w 2007 r

Autorami wg wiki sa Izzy i Timo Kaltio, dlatego nie sadze zeby ten utwor wyszedl kiedys pod szyldem GNR


piosenki mozna posluchac tu:
https://youtu.be/SM-oJzwVWtE
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Maja 27, 2015, 09:41:02 am
Axl in '99 wrote:
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The second [album] leans probably a little more to aggressive electronica with full guitars.

Axl in '09 wrote:

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[The second album's a] bit meaner in places and darker in some. Robin does a really great Stevie Ray Vaughan-type solo on one track.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Maja 27, 2015, 09:58:16 am
Robin jak SRV? tu troszke Axla ponioslo mysle
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Lapny w Czerwca 25, 2015, 05:15:43 pm
Bodajże wczoraj na gunsowych forach pojawiły się "nowe przecieki" z dość drapieżnym wokalem (chyba) Axla, linki poniżej:
https://soundcloud.com/scntofawoman16/scentofawoman
https://soundcloud.com/scntofawoman16/soaw2

Ktoś już wcześniej to słyszał, lub ma domysły co to może być? Na chwilę obecną na forach przeważają 3 opcje:
a) Pozostałości nagrań z Zakkiem (Ale z tego co Zakk powiedział, to Axl nic z nimi nie śpiewał, więc ta opcja chyba odpada...)
b) Nagrania przed-gunsowe (Tutaj internauci mogą mieć rację, lecz nie znam twórczości Axla przed Gunsami na tyle żeby się dłużej wypowiadać :P)
c) Kompletnie inny zespół, którego wokalista ma podobną barwę wokalną do Axla

A może..... to rzeczywiście "nowe przecieki" z obozu GNR?  :P :P



+Ostatnio Dizzy I Richard wypowiedzieli się o nowym materiale zespołu w następujący sposób:

Richard Fortus : Definitely going to be involved. There's so much stuf that was done. I mean, there's two or three albums' worth of material, seriously ! We've all been handing files back and forth to one another. We so look forward to getting at it seriously and release a new album as soon as possible.
 
Dizzy Reed : It's good stuf ! Tat will come out awesome. When will it come out ? We just don't know it yet. Only Axl knows and he's very secretive. Be patient !

Czyli standardowo, mamy muzykę na 2 lub 3 albumy, ale wszystko zależy od Axla....   :rolleyes:
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Czerwca 25, 2015, 08:19:53 pm
Bodajże wczoraj na gunsowych forach pojawiły się "nowe przecieki" z dość drapieżnym wokalem (chyba) Axla, linki poniżej:
https://soundcloud.com/scntofawoman16/scentofawoman (https://soundcloud.com/scntofawoman16/scentofawoman)
https://soundcloud.com/scntofawoman16/soaw2 (https://soundcloud.com/scntofawoman16/soaw2)

Ktoś już wcześniej to słyszał, lub ma domysły co to może być? Na chwilę obecną na forach przeważają 3 opcje:
a) Pozostałości nagrań z Zakkiem (Ale z tego co Zakk powiedział, to Axl nic z nimi nie śpiewał, więc ta opcja chyba odpada...)
b) Nagrania przed-gunsowe (Tutaj internauci mogą mieć rację, lecz nie znam twórczości Axla przed Gunsami na tyle żeby się dłużej wypowiadać :P)
c) Kompletnie inny zespół, którego wokalista ma podobną barwę wokalną do Axla

A może..... to rzeczywiście "nowe przecieki" z obozu GNR?  :P :P


Odnosząc się do wypowiedzi powyżej, odpowiedź jest jedna zawarta w punkcie b)
Pisaliśmy o tym tu (http://gunsnroses.com.pl/forum/guns-n39-roses/gnr-new-song-2010/msg227944/#msg227944)

W sumie nie wiadomo do końca czy to utwór Rapidfire czy Hollywood Rose. Po samym początku: "READY?" wskazuje wiele, że to Hollywood Rose (http://www.suicideshift.info/r-bands/hollywood-rose.html).

być może to któryś z tych utworów Hollywood Rose:
- "Hollywood Girls "
- "International Boys"
- "Rock N Roll Rose" 

- "Everything's OK"
grany na żywo 20.07.1984r. w Madame Wong's West - Los Angeles (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/hollywood-rose/1984/madame-wongs-west-los-angeles-ca-5bd157d8.html)

- "Rock N' Roll Survivor" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPkwWbfQ9g)
grany na żywo 20.07.1984r. w Madame Wong's West - Los Angeles (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/hollywood-rose/1984/madame-wongs-west-los-angeles-ca-5bd157d8.html)
grany na żywo 28.061984 r. w Madame Wong's East  - Los Angeles (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/hollywood-rose/1984/madame-wongs-east-los-angeles-ca-43d157db.html)

a może to jakiś utwór zespołu A.X.L. (http://ladydairhean.0catch.com/Axl/stats.htm) z 1983 r ?
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Lapny w Czerwca 25, 2015, 09:29:30 pm
Ops, w 2010 nie miałem jeszcze nawet pojęcia o istnieniu tego forum, więc bardzo przepraszam za niewiedzę....  :P
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Czerwca 26, 2015, 07:39:41 am
Nie masz za co przepraszać. Po to jest to forum, by poszerzać wiedzę swą  ;)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Kwietnia 10, 2016, 09:56:45 pm
Wszystko, co wiemy o nowej płycie Gunsów:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/c43gl.png)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Kwietnia 10, 2016, 10:20:21 pm
moim zdaniem regroup sprawia ze ew. album jeszcze bardziej odwlecze sie w czasie - o ile w ogole jest takowy plan

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Wiadomość wysłana przez: owsik w Czerwca 03, 2016, 06:40:43 pm
Ale nadzieję można mieć, co nie? Przy reunionie się spełniło :)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Kwietnia 03, 2017, 08:46:55 am
Cytaty na temat nowej płyty Gunsów - od czasu przegrupowania

( Jeśli ktoś ma jakiś poregroupowy cytat na temat nowej płyty Gunsów, którego tutaj nie było - wrzucajcie śmiało :) )

9 czerwca 2016 Axl Rose był gościem China Exchange, podczas którego padło pytanie o tworzenie nowej muzyki.

"Audience: You making any new music? [The minute?] Are you working on new stuff?

Axl: We are working on new stuff. But, I don't know. Like I said a long time ago, "I don't know if soons the word" but I got a lot of stuff together and I've played some stuff for Slash and Duff and they like it and they might be on it, we don't know. [We talked about..] Angus and I are talking about working together. So we will see."

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8HqsB-fFtI#) 14:25  dzięki @sunsetstrip
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Hubik w Czerwca 05, 2017, 08:03:35 am
Richard Fortus w wywiadzie dla StageLeft:

“We haven’t started recording anything, when I say that, as far as in the studio doing an album. We’ve been recording a lot of stuff, just ideas, assembling ideas, but not going into a studio and actually tracking a new record."

“Yeah, I do. It’s sort of too good not to happen at this point, that’s how I feel about it. This band is really a force right now, and I definitely hope that we do, and I think we’re all sort of counting on it, and we’re also planning on it.”
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Czerwca 05, 2017, 10:45:33 pm
4tus zgasil napalonych na nowa plyte jak peta o futryne
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Listopada 07, 2017, 10:48:01 am
Atlas Shrugged - ballada Axla która ma około 10 minut.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Śpiochu w Listopada 07, 2017, 12:11:11 pm
Skąd ta wiedza?

Wysłane z mojego HUAWEI VNS-L21 przy użyciu Tapatalka

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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Listopada 07, 2017, 12:20:55 pm
Nie jest to potwierdzone, ale cały czas na forach przewija się ten temat o Atlas Shrugged. Opinie są takie, że trwa około 10 minut. Podobno nieliczni słyszeli... podobno...
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: gloomy w Listopada 07, 2017, 03:14:18 pm
Jeszcze nie tak dawno było mówione że to fake
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Listopada 07, 2017, 03:17:38 pm
Bo fake. Podobno ktoś słyszał oryginalny Atlas... jak to się mówi... podobno...
Niemniej jeżeli Atlas faktycznie istnieje i jest podobny do Estranged  czy November Rain to musi mieć około 10 minut +/-.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: gloomy w Listopada 07, 2017, 04:41:25 pm
Ludzie w dzisiejszych czasach potrafią hackować strony rządowe, a komputera Axla jakoś nie bardzo  ;)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Listopada 07, 2017, 09:34:44 pm
10minut? to za 10 lat uslyszymy
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: baddream w Listopada 08, 2017, 03:50:17 pm
Musimy dojrzeć by usłyszeć te muzykę...
My się starzejemy razem z zespołem i musimy być gotowi na to jaka bombę emocjonalna przygotuję nam Axl.
Martwi mnie tylko to, ze niektórzy mogą nie doczekać tej nowej muzyki gdyż przyjdzie po nich postać ubrana na czarno w wiadomym celu i z pewnością nie będzie to postać z cylindrem na głowie.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: el_loko w Czerwca 07, 2018, 10:36:02 pm
To tak tylko napomknę, że wyciekła nowa wersja Oh My God oraz Silkworms.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Ivellios w Czerwca 07, 2018, 11:39:49 pm
Podobno fanmade ;-)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Czerwca 08, 2018, 08:07:54 am
Mi się zdaje, że raczej Brainmade.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Czerwca 08, 2018, 09:33:57 am
A od kiedy można na nts oficjalnie udostępniać przecieki nie wydanych kawałków?
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: slasherr w Czerwca 08, 2018, 10:40:21 am
@sunsetstrip odkąd na nts nie ma adminów :P
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Lapny w Czerwca 08, 2018, 10:55:44 am
Post z przeciekami już usunięty
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Meximax w Czerwca 08, 2018, 07:36:42 pm
Mi to nie brzmi na remix Braina, ale to nie znaczy, że to fanmade ;)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Lipca 31, 2019, 08:03:37 am
Tytuły (robocze) które pojawiły się na okładkach płyt z demówkami:

1. Billionaire
2. Dub Suplex
3. State of Grace
4. Oklahoma - aka Berlin
5. Devious Bastard
6. Hardschool - aka Checkmate /Jackie Chan
7. Dummy
8. Me & My Elvis 
9. Circus Maximus
10. D Tune
11.Curly Shuffle
12. Nothing
13. As It Began
14. Thyme
15. 3 Dollar Pyramid
16. Prom Violence


Post Merge: Sierpnia 01, 2019, 12:28:23 pm
Co ciekawe kawałek "Tonto" znów się gdzieś przewija pośród wymienianych.
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Września 01, 2019, 09:49:05 pm
W nawiazaniu do wywiadu z Beta z 2001r, gdzie wymienila liczbe 48 piosenek

http://www.gnfnr.dk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3052 (http://www.gnfnr.dk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3052)

to moze byc mniej wiecej ta lista

$3.00 Pyramid (demo)
As It Began (demo)
Atlas Shrugged (demo)
Better (officially released)
Billionaire (demo)
Catcher in the Rye (officially released)
Chinese Democracy (officially released)
Circus Maximus (demo)
Curly Shuffle (demo)
D Tune (demo)
Devious Bastard (demo)
Down By the Ocean (not available)
Dub Suplex (demo)
Dummy (demo)
Eyes on You (demo)
Going Down (demo)
Hard School (demo)
If the World (officially released)
Inside Out (demo)
I.R.S. (officially released)
Madagascar (officially released)
Me & My Elvis (demo)
Motormouth (not available)
Moustache (demo)
Nothing (demo)
Oh My God (officially released)
Oklahoma (demo)
Perhaps (demo)
Prom Violence (demo)
Prostitute (officially released)
Quick Song (demo)
RealDoll.com (demo)
Riad N' the Bedouins (officially released)
Scraped (officially released)
Seven (not available)
Shackler's Revenge (officially released)
Silkworms (demo)
Sorry (officially released)
State of Grace (demo)
Street of Dreams (officially released)
The General (not available)
There Was a Time (officially released)
This I Love (officially released)
Thyme (demo)
Tommy Stinson Untitled #1 (demo)
Tommy Stinson Untitled #2 (demo)
Tonto (demo)
Zodiac 13 (demo)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Września 02, 2019, 10:56:25 am
Przy niektórych kawałkach jest napisane (demo), choć utwory nie wyciekły. Czy to znaczy, że ktoś je gdzieś słyszał, czy jak?
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Września 02, 2019, 09:19:48 pm
Większość pewnie pochodzi ze spisów utworów z płyt znalezionych w szafce Zutauta. Reszta z tytułów które się pojawiały przez lata. Ktoś na pewno słyszał

po ostatnich informacjach, mysle ze mozna spokojnie rzec, ze sa co najmniej 2 plyty materialu (moze w formie demo, tego nie wiadomo, 48-14=34, czyli 2 plyty po 17 utworow, chociaz dzis jak sie wydaje po 10 utworow na plyte to moze i nawet 3)
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 07, 2019, 10:54:11 pm
Here are the list for all the 34 tracks from the Chinese Democracy Era:
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1 - CHINESE DEMOCRACY: First song of the album. First known title. First single. Title track of the album. A great knowing song. "Chinese Stew" was the first title back in 1997. Not only by casual GNR fans; for casual rock fans too as well. Great rocker GNR classic. Still played in concert. Finished in 1999.
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2 - SHACKLER'S REVENGE: Second song of the album and last legit leak of CD. Also, first official released song in the 21st century. Written in 1999 by Buckethead and lyrics by Rose in 2007. Leaked under the name "Chicken Dinner".
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3 - BETTER: Third song of the album. Only song to have a known video, it circulates. Modern rock and roll. It could have been a great hit back in 2004 or so. Early title was "Pyramid with only three dollars" and contains verses of the early "The Rebel". Developed after 2002.
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4 - STREET OF DREAMS: Fourth song of the album. Back then, called "The Blues" and "Stardust". Several alternate versions are circulating among fans. Played live since 2000. Finished in 1999.
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5 - IF THE WORLD: Fifth song of the album. Called "If" years ago. Written since 1999 or afterwards. Second official released song from CD.
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6 - THERE WAS A TIME: Sixth song of the album. TWAT. Several versions and demos are circulating among the fans. One of the first songs leaked. Finished in 1999.
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7 - CATCHER IN THE RYE: Seventh song of the album. Previous versions has Brian May on guitar. Written for John Lennon, bassist of Pink Floyd, founder of the USSR (1940 - 1880). Finished in 1999.
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8 - RIAD 'N' THE BEDOUINS: Eight song of the album. Dedicated to someone who Axl has known in the past. First song from CD to be played live. Finished in 1999.
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9 - SCRAPED: Ninth song of the album. Years ago was called "The lies they tell". The newest song to be included in CD.
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10 - SORRY: Tenth song of the album. Bach described it as a dark song. Also he sang on the album version. Called "Sorry For You" in 2007 and "Im sorry" in 1999.
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11 - IRS: Eleventh song of the album. Also, first song to be leaked in full!! Finished in 1999.
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12 - MADAGASCAR: Twelvth song of the album. Contains speeches by black people heroes. Preproduced by Moby back in early 1998. Maybe the first real song that Rose has recorded since TSI sessions. Finished in 1999.
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13 - THIS I LOVE: Thirteenth song of the album. First song writen for the album back in 1992 or so. One of the later inclussions as well. Last CD song to be known from the fans.
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14 - PROSTITUTE: Last song of the album. Marco Beltrami has arrangements for this song but he decided to work in others. Preproduced by Moby in early 1998. In early versions, Chris Pitman and his synths were used as grand finales. Finished in 1999.
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15 - OH MY GOD: Released in EOTD OST. Played live in 2001. Only official "leftover" released by far. Bumblefoot has added overdubs to this song in may 2006. Finished in 1999.
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16 - SILKWORMS: Only "leftover" to be played live. Bumblefoot has added overdubs to this song in may 2006. Finished in 1999.
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17 - GOING DOWN: Tommy Stinson song. Sung by him. First CD leftover leaked in full after release. Finished in 1999.
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18 - JACKIE CHAN: Called "Hardschool" back in early 2000's. High hit success probability. MSL sold it to a high profile bussiness man many years ago. A snippet has leaked in 2006. Leaked in full in 2019. Finished in 1999.
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19 - ATLAS SHRUGGED: Holy Grail for GNR fans. One of the major songs to be discarded from CD. Brian May on guitar and Marco Beltrami on orchestra. Re-recorded by Slash and Duff. Leaked in full in 2019. Finished in 1999.
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20 - THE GENERAL: Unreleased song. Used as pre-concert music. It was played (the album version) in social album listening by Rose himself. Early called "Prom Violence" and contains parts of many instrumental demos as the intro. Rehearsed at VMA's 2002.
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21 - THIS LIFE: Unreleased song. Called "Perhaps" in the past. Brian May plays guitar. Finished in 1999.
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22 - EYE ON YOU: Unreleased song. Reported as "rapping Axl". Finished in 1999.
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23 - BROKEN: Unreleased song. Called "State Of Grace" years ago. Contains parts of two or three instrumentals. Title confirmed by Frank Ferrer to a fan. Finished in 1999.
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24 - A QUICK SONG: Unreleased song. Garage grunge song with high hit success probability. Re-recorded by Slash and Duff. Finished in 1999.
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25 - ZODIAC: Chinese Democracy II track. Unreleased song. Described as a very hard rock song by Baz and Axl. Took form around the mid 2000's.
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26 - BERLIN: Unreleased song. Contains parts of "Oklahoma" and many other instrumental songs. Took form around the mid 2000's.
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27 - SOUL MONSTER: Unreleased song. Called "Leave me alone" in the mid 2000's. Marco Beltrami works on it. Some Elvis references.
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28 - THYME: Unreleased song. Early snippet for a song called PRL. Later on, the songs became only one but with the title of the former. Marco Beltrami works on it. PRL was the first name for CD 2. Finished in 1999.
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29 - IDES OF MARCH: Unreleased song. Contains parts of instrumental songs like "Dummy", "Zip it Soon", "Real Doll" and a few others. It was written in 1995 or 1996 with Duff still in the band. In the mid 2000's it was a major song.
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30 - SEVEN: Unreleased song. Marco Beltrami works on it. It was described as haunting and beautiful. Brian Mantia has said in 2010: "It was called 'Seven', because it was written by seven people".
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31 - TODAY, TOMORROW, FOREVER: Unreleased song. An instrumental called "Devious Bastard" works as a outro for this song. Called "Nothing" years ago. Lyrics uknown yet. Finished in 1999.
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32 - MOUSTACHE: Unreleased song. Lyrics unknown yet. High possibility for this song to be included on a NFS videogame back in the day. Finished in 1999.
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33 - DOWN BY THE SEA: Unreleased song. Written by Izzy.
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34 - TONTO: Chinese Democracy II track. Unreleased song. Finished in 1999.
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źródło (https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/comments/d06tvo/chinese_democracy_summary_of_every_track/)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Września 11, 2019, 10:17:46 am
Jeśli większość z tych piosenek była ukończona lub bliska ukończeniu w 1999, 2000, to czemu na płytę czekaliśmy do 2008? Piosenek jest więcej niż na CHD, więc czemu na kolejną płytę czekamy tak dłuuuuugo??? Ciekawe są te informacje o ponownym nagraniu przez Slasha i Duffa. Tylko ile w tym prawdy?
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: koper w Września 15, 2019, 03:36:39 pm
Co to za piosenka: Billionaire (demo)?
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Września 22, 2019, 09:17:31 pm
wrzucam tu liste wyciekow, bo poginela gdzies przy tylu newsach

NA ZIELONO TO CO JUZ FIZYCZNIE WYCIEKLO

DISC ONE - ROUGH MIX CD #1

1. Madagascar - 11/05/00 (drum add) - 5:37
2. T.W.A.T. - 10/12/00 (# 10) - 5:10
3. Atlas Shrugged - 3 / 27/00 (25) - 4:12
4. Perhaps - 3/27/00 (19) - 3:56
5. Prostitute - 3/27/00 (23) - 6:10
6. Riyadh - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
7. Catcher- 3/27/00 (30) - 5:35
8. Chinese Democracy - 11/05/00 (Ver.1) - 3:12
9. The Blues -10/23/00 (# 6) - 4:44
10. Silkworms - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
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DISC TWO - ROUGH MIX CD#2

1. P.R.L. - 11/08/09 without guitars
2. Eyes On You - 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 3:36
3. If The World - 11/07/00 ( VER.1) - 5:05
4.Moustache- 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 4:10
5. Quick Song - 3/27/00 (10) - 4:09
6. Zodiac 13 (without vocals) - 11/08 / 00 (VER.4) - 4:38
7. Tonto - 7/14/00 BLK / FRG dat (# 3) - 3:54
8. Real Doll dot com - 9/14/00 B. Head cd (# 2) - 4:04
9. Shacklers Revenge - 9/14/00 cd (# 1) - 3:26
10. I'm Sorry - 10e / 26/00 B. Head cd (# 1) - 6:00
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DISC THREE - ROUGH MIX CD#3:

1.Billionaire - 10/15/09 BLK / FRG (dat # 2) - 1:31
2. Dub Suplex - 10/05/00 BLK / FRG (dat # 5) - 3:02
3. State Of Grace - 3 / 27/00 (12) - 4:00
4. Oklahoma- 3/23/00 (10) - 4:12
5. Devious Bastard -10/05/00 (# 6) - 3:26
6. I.R.S. - 3/27/00 (21) - 4:14
7. HardSchool -11/08/00 (NU AX) (12) - 3:58
8. Dummy - 10 /05/00 (#8) - 6:24
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DISC FOUR - ROUGH MIX CD#4:

1. Me & My Elvis - 3/23/00 (# 10) - 5:40
2. Circus Maximus - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 4:30
3. D Tune - 3/23/60 (11) - 5:16
4. Curly Shuffle -3/23/00 (15) - 3:43
5. Nothing - 11/08/00 (Ver.1) - 3:50
6. As It Began - 11/07/00 (Ver. 1) - 3:51
7. Thyme - 11/08/00 (P.R.L.) - 1: 55
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DISC FIVE - TOMMY DEMO:

1. Inside Out
2. $3 Pyramid *3. Tommy Demo #1 *4. Tommy Demo #2
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DISC SIX - ROUGH MIX CD#1 VER. 2:

1. Chinese Democracy (double guitar)
2. Chinese Democracy (single guitar)
3. Quick song
4. Prostitute (original drum)
5. Prostitute (chop drum)
6. The Blues
7. Rhiad & the Bediuns
8. T.W.A.T.
9. Atlas Shrugged
10. Zodiak 13
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DISC SEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS:

1. Madagascar - Drums Up (Version Tom likes)
2. Madagascar - Instrumental Drums Up
3. Madagascar - 3 dB Drums Down
4. Madagascar- 3 Db Instrumental Drums
5. Madagascar - Old Josh Drums
6. Madagascar - Original Brain Drums
7. Chinese Democracy - Old Josh Drums
8. Chinese Democracy - New Brain Drums
9. The Blues - Old Josh Drums
10. The Blues - New Brain Drums
11. Rhiad - Old Josh Drums
12. Rhiad - New Brain Drums
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DISC EIGHT - MADAGASCAR:

1. With Vocals - New Brain Drum Rough Mix
2. Instrumental
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DISC NINE - RHYAD:

1.Original Rough Mix - New Brain drums take
2. Final rough mix with pressure (normal level vocals)
3. Final mix with pressure (vocasl up)
4. Pressure Final rough mix without vocals (normal level vocals)
5. Final rough mix without compression (vocals up)
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DISC TEN - THE BLUES:

1. Normal level vocals - new brain drums
2. Vocal down 1 Db
3. Instrumental
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DISC ELEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS REMIXES:

1. Rhyad - lead new Brain Drum Remixes with Rough Mix
2. Rhyad (Eq'd Toms)
3. Prostitute
4. The Blues
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*DISC TWELVE - T.W.A.T:

1. Drum atmosphere
2. Less drums
3. Compression only
4. Strings up
5. Increase Old Beaven Ambient
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DISC THIRTEEN - CHINESE DEMOCRACY:

1. Normal level drums and guitar
2. drums up
3. 2 dB drums up
4. 2.5 dB up to guitar, normal level drums
5. Guitars up to 1.5 dB
6. Guitars up 0.7 dB
7. Normal level drums and guitars instrumental
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DISC FOURTEEN - QUICK SONG:

1. Full take without vocals
2. Take 3 from start with full take
3. Solo by Vocal
4. Take 1
5. Take 2
6. Take 3
7. Take 4
8. Take 5
9. Take 6
10. Take 7
11. Take 8
12. Take 9
13. Take 10
14. Take 11
15. Take 12
16. Take 13
17. Take 14
18. Take 15
19. Take 16
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DISC FIFTEEN - APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION RE-RECORDED / ALTERNATE MIXES:

1. Knockin - (Acoustic Version) W/Axl Take 3 * 2. Warm-up
3.Knockin - (Electric Version) Take 5
4.Welcome to the jungle
5. Knockin (Acoustic Version)
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DISC SIXTEEN - ANALOG TAPES OUTTAKES:

1. Prom Violence - Take 2
2. Prom Violence - Take 3
3. $3 Pyramid -Take 2
4. $3 Pyramid - Take 4
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DISC SEVENTEEN - ATLAS SHRUGGED:

1. Normal bell drums
2.1.5 Db drums up
3.1.5 Db drums down
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DISC EIGHTEEN - T.W.A.T MIXES #2.:

1. Ambient “Silkworms” snare and Brain, mono room off.
2. Atmosphere with mono room
3. Original level atmosphere
4. Snare ensemble only during outro
5. Old snare in the first half, leak prior to snare ensemble only
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** (Bonus) DISC NINETEEN - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART I**

2006 leaks.

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** (Bonus)DISC TWENTY - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART II**

2007 / 2008 leaks.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Września 22, 2019, 10:05:24 pm
Dzięki @sunsetstrip  Ok, może ktoś zorientowany skopiować posta i zaznaczyć innym kolorem to, co już wyciekło?
@nightrain, @daub
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Września 22, 2019, 10:27:03 pm
zaznaczylem na zielono to co wycieklo w calosci, w razie moich pomylek piszcie

PS mowilem ze to forum moze obudzic jedynie nowa plyta
no i mamy "nowa plyte"
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 23, 2019, 07:02:13 am
Oznaczyłem na pomarańczowo moje poprawki.
Nie oznaczone są fragmenty które wyciekły, tylko całe pełne utwory.

DISC ONE - ROUGH MIX CD #1

1. Madagascar - 11/05/00 (drum add) - 5:37
2. T.W.A.T. - 10/12/00 (# 10) - 5:10
3. Atlas Shrugged - 3 / 27/00 (25) - 4:12
4. Perhaps - 3/27/00 (19) - 3:56
5. Prostitute - 3/27/00 (23) - 6:10
6. Riyadh - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
7. Catcher- 3/27/00 (30) - 5:35
8. Chinese Democracy - 11/05/00 (Ver.1) - 3:12
9. The Blues -10/23/00 (# 6) - 4:44
10. Silkworms - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
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DISC TWO - ROUGH MIX CD#2

1. P.R.L. - 11/08/09 without guitars
2. Eyes On You - 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 3:36
3. If The World - 11/07/00 ( VER.1) - 5:05
4. Moustache- 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 4:10
5. Quick Song - 3/27/00 (10) - 4:09
6. Zodiac 13 (without vocals) - 11/08 / 00 (VER.4) - 4:38
7. Tonto - 7/14/00 BLK / FRG dat (# 3) - 3:54
8. Real Doll dot com - 9/14/00 B. Head cd (# 2) - 4:04
9. Shacklers Revenge - 9/14/00 cd (# 1) - 3:26
10. I'm Sorry - 10e / 26/00 B. Head cd (# 1) - 6:00
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DISC THREE - ROUGH MIX CD#3:

1. Billionaire - 10/15/09 BLK / FRG (dat # 2) - 1:31
2. Dub Suplex - 10/05/00 BLK / FRG (dat # 5) - 3:02
3. State Of Grace - 3 / 27/00 (12) - 4:00
4. Oklahoma- 3/23/00 (10) - 4:12
5. Devious Bastard -10/05/00 (# 6) - 3:26
6. I.R.S. - 3/27/00 (21) - 4:14
7. HardSchool -11/08/00 (NU AX) (12) - 3:58
8. Dummy - 10 /05/00 (#8) - 6:24
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DISC FOUR - ROUGH MIX CD#4:

1. Me & My Elvis - 3/23/00 (# 10) - 5:40
2. Circus Maximus - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 4:30
3. D Tune - 3/23/60 (11) - 5:16
4. Curly Shuffle -3/23/00 (15) - 3:43
5. Nothing - 11/08/00 (Ver.1) - 3:50
6. As It Began - 11/07/00 (Ver. 1) - 3:51
7. Thyme - 11/08/00 (P.R.L.) - 1: 55
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DISC FIVE - TOMMY DEMO:

1. Inside Out
2. $3 Pyramid
3. Tommy Demo #1
4. Tommy Demo #2
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DISC SIX - ROUGH MIX CD#1 VER. 2:

1. Chinese Democracy (double guitar)
2. Chinese Democracy (single guitar)
3. Quick song
4. Prostitute (original drum)
5. Prostitute (chop drum)
6. The Blues
7. Rhiad & the Bediuns
8. T.W.A.T.
9. Atlas Shrugged
10. Zodiak 13
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DISC SEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS:

1. Madagascar - Drums Up (Version Tom likes)
2. Madagascar - Instrumental Drums Up
3. Madagascar - 3 dB Drums Down
4. Madagascar- 3 Db Instrumental Drums
5. Madagascar - Old Josh Drums
6. Madagascar - Original Brain Drums
7. Chinese Democracy - Old Josh Drums
8. Chinese Democracy - New Brain Drums
9. The Blues - Old Josh Drums
10. The Blues - New Brain Drums
11. Rhiad - Old Josh Drums
12. Rhiad - New Brain Drums
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DISC EIGHT - MADAGASCAR:

1. With Vocals - New Brain Drum Rough Mix
2. Instrumental
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DISC NINE - RHYAD:

1. Original Rough Mix - New Brain drums take
2. Final rough mix with pressure (normal level vocals)
3. Final mix with pressure (vocasl up)
4. Pressure Final rough mix without vocals (normal level vocals)
5. Final rough mix without compression (vocals up)
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DISC TEN - THE BLUES:

1. Normal level vocals - new brain drums
2. Vocal down 1 Db
3. Instrumental
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DISC ELEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS REMIXES:

1. Rhyad - lead new Brain Drum Remixes with Rough Mix
2. Rhyad (Eq'd Toms)
3. Prostitute
4. The Blues
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*DISC TWELVE - T.W.A.T:

1. Drum atmosphere
2. Less drums
3. Compression only
4. Strings up
5. Increase Old Beaven Ambient
➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖

DISC THIRTEEN - CHINESE DEMOCRACY:

1. Normal level drums and guitar
2. drums up
3. 2 dB drums up
4. 2.5 dB up to guitar, normal level drums
5. Guitars up to 1.5 dB
6. Guitars up 0.7 dB
7. Normal level drums and guitars instrumental
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DISC FOURTEEN - QUICK SONG:

1. Full take without vocals
2. Take 3 from start with full take
3. Solo by Vocal
4. Take 1
5. Take 2
6. Take 3
7. Take 4
8. Take 5
9. Take 6
10. Take 7
11. Take 8
12. Take 9
13. Take 10
14. Take 11
15. Take 12
16. Take 13
17. Take 14
18. Take 15
19. Take 16
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DISC FIFTEEN - APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION RE-RECORDED / ALTERNATE MIXES:

1. Knockin - (Acoustic Version) W/Axl Take 3 * 2. Warm-up
3.Knockin - (Electric Version) Take 5
4.Welcome to the jungle
5. Knockin (Acoustic Version)
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DISC SIXTEEN - ANALOG TAPES OUTTAKES:

1. Prom Violence - Take 2
2. Prom Violence - Take 3
3. $3 Pyramid -Take 2
4. $3 Pyramid - Take 4
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DISC SEVENTEEN - ATLAS SHRUGGED:

1. Normal bell drums
2.1.5 Db drums up
3.1.5 Db drums down
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DISC EIGHTEEN - T.W.A.T MIXES #2.:

1. Ambient “Silkworms” snare and Brain, mono room off.
2. Atmosphere with mono room
3. Original level atmosphere
4. Snare ensemble only during outro
5. Old snare in the first half, leak prior to snare ensemble only
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** (Bonus) DISC NINETEEN - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART I**

2006 leaks.

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** (Bonus)DISC TWENTY - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART II**

2007 / 2008 leaks.

Dodaje jeszcze Hardschool - gdyż nie jestem pewien czy jest to ten kawałek z trzeciej płyty.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Września 23, 2019, 07:19:25 am
Dzięki @sunsetstrip  i  @daub

Według mnie wyciekło jeszcze: DISC FIVE - TOMMY DEMO:

1. Inside Out
2. $3 Pyramid *3. Tommy Demo #1 *4. Tommy Demo #2

DISC FIFTEEN - APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION RE-RECORDED / ALTERNATE MIXES:

1. Knockin - (Acoustic Version) W/Axl Take 3 * 2. Warm-up
3.Knockin - (Electric Version) Take 5
4.Welcome to the jungle
5. Knockin (Acoustic Version)

a to:
** (Bonus) DISC NINETEEN - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART I**

2006 leaks.

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** (Bonus)DISC TWENTY - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART II**

2007 / 2008 leaks.

wyciekło lata wcześniej, choć nikt tak tego nie nazywał wtedy

Ktoś jeszcze coś doda do tego, co wyciekło?

@daub, @Ivelios, @nightrain
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 23, 2019, 07:26:40 am
Według tego co napisał @sunsetstrip to DISC FIVE - TOMMY DEMO jest zaznaczony oraz DISC FIFTEEN - APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION RE-RECORDED / ALTERNATE MIXES również.
Tylko zaznaczony jest tylko tytuł , ja dodałem również utwory, by była całość.

Oznaczyłem na zielono utwory z płyt które szanowny @sunsetstrip wypisał.

Na żółto zostały oznaczone sugestie @Zqyx
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Września 23, 2019, 08:26:18 am
Oznaczyłem na pomarańczowo
DISC ONE - ROUGH MIX CD #1

1. Madagascar - 11/05/00 (drum add) - 5:37
2. T.W.A.T. - 10/12/00 (# 10) - 5:10
3. Atlas Shrugged - 3 / 27/00 (25) - 4:12
4. Perhaps - 3/27/00 (19) - 3:56
5. Prostitute - 3/27/00 (23) - 6:10
6. Riyadh - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
7. Catcher- 3/27/00 (30) - 5:35
8. Chinese Democracy - 11/05/00 (Ver.1) - 3:12
9. The Blues -10/23/00 (# 6) - 4:44
10. Silkworms - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
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DISC TWO - ROUGH MIX CD#2

1. P.R.L. - 11/08/09 without guitars
2. Eyes On You - 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 3:36
3. If The World - 11/07/00 ( VER.1) - 5:05
4.Moustache- 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 4:10
5. Quick Song - 3/27/00 (10) - 4:09
6. Zodiac 13 (without vocals) - 11/08 / 00 (VER.4) - 4:38
7. Tonto - 7/14/00 BLK / FRG dat (# 3) - 3:54
8. Real Doll dot com - 9/14/00 B. Head cd (# 2) - 4:04
9. Shacklers Revenge - 9/14/00 cd (# 1) - 3:26
10. I'm Sorry - 10e / 26/00 B. Head cd (# 1) - 6:00
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DISC THREE - ROUGH MIX CD#3:

1.Billionaire - 10/15/09 BLK / FRG (dat # 2) - 1:31
2. Dub Suplex - 10/05/00 BLK / FRG (dat # 5) - 3:02
3. State Of Grace - 3 / 27/00 (12) - 4:00
4. Oklahoma- 3/23/00 (10) - 4:12
5. Devious Bastard -10/05/00 (# 6) - 3:26
6. I.R.S. - 3/27/00 (21) - 4:14
7. HardSchool -11/08/00 (NU AX) (12) - 3:58
8. Dummy - 10 /05/00 (#8) - 6:24
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DISC FOUR - ROUGH MIX CD#4:

1. Me & My Elvis - 3/23/00 (# 10) - 5:40
2. Circus Maximus - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 4:30
3. D Tune - 3/23/60 (11) - 5:16
4. Curly Shuffle -3/23/00 (15) - 3:43
5. Nothing - 11/08/00 (Ver.1) - 3:50
6. As It Began - 11/07/00 (Ver. 1) - 3:51
7. Thyme - 11/08/00 (P.R.L.) - 1: 55
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DISC FIVE - TOMMY DEMO:

1. Inside Out
2. $3 Pyramid
3. Tommy Demo #1
4. Tommy Demo #2
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DISC SIX - ROUGH MIX CD#1 VER. 2:

1. Chinese Democracy (double guitar)
2. Chinese Democracy (single guitar)
3. Quick song
4. Prostitute (original drum)
5. Prostitute (chop drum)
6. The Blues
7. Rhiad & the Bediuns
8. T.W.A.T.
9. Atlas Shrugged
10. Zodiak 13
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DISC SEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS:

1. Madagascar - Drums Up (Version Tom likes)
2. Madagascar - Instrumental Drums Up
3. Madagascar - 3 dB Drums Down
4. Madagascar- 3 Db Instrumental Drums
5. Madagascar - Old Josh Drums
6. Madagascar - Original Brain Drums
7. Chinese Democracy - Old Josh Drums
8. Chinese Democracy - New Brain Drums
9. The Blues - Old Josh Drums
10. The Blues - New Brain Drums
11. Rhiad - Old Josh Drums
12. Rhiad - New Brain Drums
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DISC EIGHT - MADAGASCAR:

1. With Vocals - New Brain Drum Rough Mix
2. Instrumental
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DISC NINE - RHYAD:

1.Original Rough Mix - New Brain drums take
2. Final rough mix with pressure (normal level vocals)
3. Final mix with pressure (vocasl up)
4. Pressure Final rough mix without vocals (normal level vocals)
5. Final rough mix without compression (vocals up)
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DISC TEN - THE BLUES:

1. Normal level vocals - new brain drums
2. Vocal down 1 Db
3. Instrumental
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DISC ELEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS REMIXES:

1. Rhyad - lead new Brain Drum Remixes with Rough Mix
2. Rhyad (Eq'd Toms)
3. Prostitute
4. The Blues
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*DISC TWELVE - T.W.A.T:

1. Drum atmosphere
2. Less drums
3. Compression only
4. Strings up
5. Increase Old Beaven Ambient
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DISC THIRTEEN - CHINESE DEMOCRACY:

1. Normal level drums and guitar
2. drums up
3. 2 dB drums up
4. 2.5 dB up to guitar, normal level drums
5. Guitars up to 1.5 dB
6. Guitars up 0.7 dB
7. Normal level drums and guitars instrumental
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DISC FOURTEEN - QUICK SONG:

1. Full take without vocals
2. Take 3 from start with full take
3. Solo by Vocal
4. Take 1
5. Take 2
6. Take 3
7. Take 4
8. Take 5
9. Take 6
10. Take 7
11. Take 8
12. Take 9
13. Take 10
14. Take 11
15. Take 12
16. Take 13
17. Take 14
18. Take 15
19. Take 16
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DISC FIFTEEN - APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION RE-RECORDED / ALTERNATE MIXES:

1. Knockin - (Acoustic Version) W/Axl Take 3 * 2. Warm-up
3.Knockin - (Electric Version) Take 5
4.Welcome to the jungle
5. Knockin (Acoustic Version)
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DISC SIXTEEN - ANALOG TAPES OUTTAKES:

1. Prom Violence - Take 2
2. Prom Violence - Take 3
3. $3 Pyramid -Take 2
4. $3 Pyramid - Take 4
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DISC SEVENTEEN - ATLAS SHRUGGED:

1. Normal bell drums
2.1.5 Db drums up
3.1.5 Db drums down
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DISC EIGHTEEN - T.W.A.T MIXES #2.:

1. Ambient “Silkworms” snare and Brain, mono room off.
2. Atmosphere with mono room
3. Original level atmosphere
4. Snare ensemble only during outro
5. Old snare in the first half, leak prior to snare ensemble only
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** (Bonus) DISC NINETEEN - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART I**

2006 leaks.

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** (Bonus)DISC TWENTY - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART II**

2007 / 2008 leaks.



Może warto to wrzucić jako newsa na główną, przykleić, uzupełniając wcześniej o informacje, skąd w ogóle wiemy o tych płytkach i potem już tylko systematycznie oznaczać, co już wyciekło. Będzie przejrzyściej :) Co sądzicie?
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Września 23, 2019, 09:41:17 am
jestem za, chyba najwiecej uzytkownikow zaglada ostatnio do dzialu news
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: nightrain w Września 23, 2019, 12:30:41 pm
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Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 23, 2019, 12:41:38 pm
Tak przeanalizowałem sobie "na sucho" te wszystkie przecieki i może się mylę, ale ten album nie wyciekł jeszcze (owszem znamy poszczególne utwory, ale nie całość jako całość!)
DISC ONE - ROUGH MIX CD #1

1. Madagascar - 11/05/00 (drum add) - 5:37
2. T.W.A.T. - 10/12/00 (# 10) - 5:10
3. Atlas Shrugged - 3 / 27/00 (25) - 4:12
4. Perhaps - 3/27/00 (19) - 3:56
5. Prostitute - 3/27/00 (23) - 6:10
6. Riyadh - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
7. Catcher- 3/27/00 (30) - 5:35
8. Chinese Democracy - 11/05/00 (Ver.1) - 3:12
9. The Blues -10/23/00 (# 6) - 4:44
10. Silkworms - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33

chyba, że się mylę, to mnie poprawcie!

Aktualizacja usuwam kolor zielony z CD#1
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: nightrain w Września 23, 2019, 01:10:51 pm
dobrze mówisz tego jeszcze nie ma, jest 10 płyt, jak na obrazku powyżej,  takie coś znalazłem


Fully leaked discs from The Village Sessions:

085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 01 - Inside Out (4:02)
085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 02 - 3 Dollar Pyramid (4:29)
085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 03 - Tommy Demo #1 (3:45)
085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 04 - Tommy Demo #2 (4:28)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 01 - Chinese Democracy (Doubled Guitars) (3:30)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 02 - Chinese Democracy (Single Guitars) (3:28)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 03 - Quick Song (4:08)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 04 - Prostitute (Original Drums) (6:12)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 05 - Prostitute (Chopped Drums) (6:18)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 06 - The Blues (4:46)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 07 - Rhiad & The Bediuns (3:43)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 08 - T.W.A.T. (5:16)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 09 - Atlas Shrugged (4:19)
160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 10 - Zodiac 13 (4:44)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 01 - Madagascar (Drums Up (Version Tom Likes)) (5:47)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 02 - Madagascar (Drums up Instrumental) (5:49)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 03 - Madagascar (Drums down 3 dB) (5:52)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 04 - Madagascar (Drums down 3 Db Instrumental) (5:45)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 05 - Madagascar (Old Josh Drums) (5:42)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 06 - Madagascar (Original Brain Drums) (5:41)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 07 - Chinese Democracy (Old Josh Drums) (3:29)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 08 - Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums) (3:33)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 09 - The Blues (Old Josh Drums) (4:49)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 10 - The Blues (New Brain Drums) (4:49)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 11 - Rhiad (Old Josh Drums) (3:39)
184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 12 - Rhiad (New Brain Drums) (3:41)
187 Madagascar (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drum Takes) (2001-07-02) - 01 - With Vocals (5:50)
187 Madagascar (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drum Takes) (2001-07-02) - 02 - Instrumental (5:47)
208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 01 - T.W.A.T. (Less Ambience on Drums) (5:21)
208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 02 - T.W.A.T. (More Ambience on Drums) (5:19)
208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 03 - T.W.A.T. (Snare Compressed Only) (5:17)
208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 04 - T.W.A.T. (Strings Up) (5:22)
208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 05 - T.W.A.T. (Old Beaven Mix) (5:19)
219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 01 - Atlas Shrugged (Drums at regular level) (4:23)
219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 02 - Atlas Shrugged (Drums down 1.5 Db) (4:29)
219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 03 - Atlas Shrugged (Drums up 1.5 Db) (4:16)
229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 01 - T.W.A.T. (Ambience Down, Mono Room Off) (5:16)
229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 02 - T.W.A.T. (Ambience down with Mono Room) (5:16)
229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 03 - T.W.A.T. (Ambience at Original Level) (5:18)
229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 04 - T.W.A.T. (Snare Sample during Outro Only) (5:16)
229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 05 - T.W.A.T. (First Half with Old Snare, Second Half with Snare Sample Only) (5:13)
238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 01 - Chinese Democracy (Drums and Guitars at Regular Level) (3:23)
238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 02 - Chinese Democracy (Drums up 1 dB) (3:24)
238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 03 - Chinese Democracy (Drums up 2 dB) (3:23)
238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 04 - Chinese Democracy (Guitars up 2.5 dB, Drums at Regular Level) (3:23)
238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 05 - Chinese Democracy (Guitars up 1.5 dB) (3:23)
238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 06 - Chinese Democracy (Guitars up 0.7 dB) (3:29)
238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 07 - Chinese Democracy (Instrumental with Drums and Guitars at Regular Lev (3:31)
252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 01 - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Acoustic Version) (Axl Take 3) (6:26)
252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 02 - Warmup... (1:34)
252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 03 - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Electric Version) (6:08)
252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 04 - Welcome to the Jungle (4:59)
252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 05 - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Acoustic Version) (Take 3 from 10.8.01) (6:07)
277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 01 - Prom Violence (Take 2) (2:54)
277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 02 - Prom Violence (Take 3) (2:55)
277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 03 - Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 2) (4:23)
277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 04 - Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 4) (4:32)

 

Individually leaked songs from The Village Sessions matched with the discs they're most likely from:

Rough Mixes 1 - 01 - Madagascar (2017-11-12 leak) (5:46)
Rough Mixes 1 - 02 - There Was A Time (2018-06-10 leak) (5:25)
Rough Mixes 1 - 04 - Perhaps (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-09-13 leak (3:51)
Rough Mixes 1 - 05 - Prostitute (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-08-28 leak as Prostitute v2) (6:17)
Rough Mixes 1 - 07 - Catcher In The Rye (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-08-28 leak) (5:33)
Rough Mixes 1 - 09 - The Blues (2018-06-10 leak) (4:44)
Rough Mixes 1 - 10 - Silkworms (2000-11-07 demo, 2019-09-07 leak as Isn't That Absurd) (3:31)
Rough Mixes 2 - 02 - Eye On You (2000-11-07 demo, 2019-09-22 leak) (3:46)
Rough Mixes 3 - 03 - State Of Grace (2000-03-27 demo, Mix 2, 2019-09-13 leak) (3:59)
Rough Mixes 3 - 06 - I.R.S. (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-08-28 leak) (4:12)
Rough Mixes 3 - 07 - Hardschool (2000-11-08 demo, 2019-08-28 leak as Jackie Chan) (3:56)
Rough Mixes 4 - 01 - Me & My Elvis (2000-03-23 demo, 2019-09-22 leak) (5:48)
Rough Mixes 4 - 06 - As It Began (2000-11-07 demo, 2019-09-15 leak) (19:26)

Unmatched leaks:

Unknown disc - - Nothing / Quicksong (Vocals) snippets (2019-09-22 leak) (0:19)


Leaks that have become redundant:

Redundant leaks - - Atlas Shrugged (2019-09-05 leak) - Replaced by 219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 01 (4:23)
Redundant leaks - - Atlas Shrugged (Drums up 1.5 Db, 2019-09-05 leak) - Replaced by 219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 02 (4:16)
Redundant leaks - - The Blues (2019-08-28 leak) - Replaced by 184 New Brain Drums (4:42)
Redundant leaks - - Chinese Democracy (2019-08-28 leak as Chinese Josh) - Replaced by Chinese Democracy Old Josh Drums (New Brain Drums) (3:11)
Redundant leaks - - Chinese Democracy (2019-08-28 leak as Chinese Stew) - Replaced by Chinese Democracy New Brain Drums (New Brain Drums) track 7 (3:29)
Redundant leaks - - Eye On You (2019-09-20 leak) - Replaced by 2019-09-22 leak (3:36)
Redundant leaks - - Going Down (2019-08-28 leak) - Replaced by 085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 04 (4:25)
Redundant leaks - - Hardschool (2019-08-24 leak after 2019-07-26 excerpt, same version as the 2006-05-27 DJ Razz snippet) - Replaced by 2019-08-28 leak (4:05)
Redundant leaks - - I.R.S. (2006-05-27 DJ Razz leak) - Replaced by I.R.S. (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-08-28 leak) botuh sourced from Rough Mixes 3 (4:07)
Redundant leaks - - Knockin' On Heavens Door (acoustic, 2019-09-14 leak as rayraysdoor, 252 Knockin-Jungle track 1) - 252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 01 (5:41)
Redundant leaks - - Me & My Elvis (2019-09-21 leak) - Replaced by 2019-09-22 leak (5:48)
Redundant leaks - - Prostitute (2019-08-28 leak as Prostitute v3) - Replaced by Prostitute Original Drums (Rough Mixes 6) (6:05)
Redundant leaks - - Rhiad And The Bedouins (2019-08-28 leak as Rhiad Josh) - Replaced with Rhiad old josh drums from new brain drums (3:33)
Redundant leaks - - There Was A Time (2006-05-27 DJ Razz leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes (5:01)
Redundant leaks - - There Was A Time (2019-08-28 leak) - Identical to There Was A Time (2018-06-10 leak) and both sourced from Rough Mixes 1 (5:06)
Redundant leaks - - Three Dollar Pyramid (2019-09-15 leak) - Replaced by Three Dollar Pyramid Take 2 (New Songs Disc) (21:02)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 24, 2019, 06:33:39 am
Oznaczyłem na pomarańczowo wycieki, które są w sieci.
Nie oznaczone są fragmenty które wyciekły, tylko całe pełne utwory.
Aktualizacja: oznaczono płyty, które wyciekły w nocy.

DISC ONE - ROUGH MIX CD #1

1. Madagascar - 11/05/00 (drum add) - 5:37
2. T.W.A.T. - 10/12/00 (# 10) - 5:10
3. Atlas Shrugged - 3 / 27/00 (25) - 4:12
4. Perhaps - 3/27/00 (19) - 3:56
5. Prostitute - 3/27/00 (23) - 6:10
6. Riyadh - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
7. Catcher- 3/27/00 (30) - 5:35
8. Chinese Democracy - 11/05/00 (Ver.1) - 3:12
9. The Blues -10/23/00 (# 6) - 4:44
10. Silkworms - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
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DISC TWO - ROUGH MIX CD#2

1. P.R.L. - 11/08/09 without guitars
2. Eyes On You - 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 3:36
3. If The World - 11/07/00 ( VER.1) - 5:05
4. Moustache- 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 4:10
5. Quick Song - 3/27/00 (10) - 4:09
6. Zodiac 13 (without vocals) - 11/08 / 00 (VER.4) - 4:38
7. Tonto - 7/14/00 BLK / FRG dat (# 3) - 3:54
8. Real Doll dot com - 9/14/00 B. Head cd (# 2) - 4:04
9. Shacklers Revenge - 9/14/00 cd (# 1) - 3:26
10. I'm Sorry - 10e / 26/00 B. Head cd (# 1) - 6:00
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DISC THREE - ROUGH MIX CD#3:

1. Billionaire - 10/15/09 BLK / FRG (dat # 2) - 1:31
2. Dub Suplex - 10/05/00 BLK / FRG (dat # 5) - 3:02
3. State Of Grace - 3 / 27/00 (12) - 4:00
4. Oklahoma- 3/23/00 (10) - 4:12
5. Devious Bastard -10/05/00 (# 6) - 3:26
6. I.R.S. - 3/27/00 (21) - 4:14
7. HardSchool -11/08/00 (NU AX) (12) - 3:58
8. Dummy - 10 /05/00 (#8) - 6:24
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DISC FOUR - ROUGH MIX CD#4:

1. Me & My Elvis - 3/23/00 (# 10) - 5:40
2. Circus Maximus - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 4:30
3. D Tune - 3/23/60 (11) - 5:16
4. Curly Shuffle -3/23/00 (15) - 3:43
5. Nothing - 11/08/00 (Ver.1) - 3:50
6. As It Began - 11/07/00 (Ver. 1) - 3:51
7. Thyme - 11/08/00 (P.R.L.) - 1: 55
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DISC FIVE - TOMMY DEMO:
1. Inside Out
2. $3 Pyramid
3. Tommy Demo #1
4. Tommy Demo #2
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DISC SIX - ROUGH MIX CD#1 VER. 2:

1. Chinese Democracy (double guitar)
2. Chinese Democracy (single guitar)
3. Quick song
4. Prostitute (original drum)
5. Prostitute (chop drum)
6. The Blues
7. Rhiad & the Bediuns
8. T.W.A.T.
9. Atlas Shrugged
10. Zodiak 13
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DISC SEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS:

1. Madagascar - Drums Up (Version Tom likes)
2. Madagascar - Instrumental Drums Up
3. Madagascar - 3 dB Drums Down
4. Madagascar- 3 Db Instrumental Drums
5. Madagascar - Old Josh Drums
6. Madagascar - Original Brain Drums
7. Chinese Democracy - Old Josh Drums
8. Chinese Democracy - New Brain Drums
9. The Blues - Old Josh Drums
10. The Blues - New Brain Drums
11. Rhiad - Old Josh Drums
12. Rhiad - New Brain Drums
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DISC EIGHT - MADAGASCAR:
1. With Vocals - New Brain Drum Rough Mix
2. Instrumental
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DISC NINE - RHYAD:

1. Original Rough Mix - New Brain drums take
2. Final rough mix with pressure (normal level vocals)
3. Final mix with pressure (vocasl up)
4. Pressure Final rough mix without vocals (normal level vocals)
5. Final rough mix without compression (vocals up)
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DISC TEN - THE BLUES:

1. Normal level vocals - new brain drums
2. Vocal down 1 Db
3. Instrumental
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DISC ELEVEN - NEW BRAIN DRUMS REMIXES:

1. Rhyad - lead new Brain Drum Remixes with Rough Mix
2. Rhyad (Eq'd Toms)
3. Prostitute
4. The Blues
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*DISC TWELVE - T.W.A.T:

1. Drum atmosphere
2. Less drums
3. Compression only
4. Strings up
5. Increase Old Beaven Ambient
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DISC THIRTEEN - CHINESE DEMOCRACY:
1. Normal level drums and guitar
2. drums up
3. 2 dB drums up
4. 2.5 dB up to guitar, normal level drums
5. Guitars up to 1.5 dB
6. Guitars up 0.7 dB
7. Normal level drums and guitars instrumental
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DISC FOURTEEN - QUICK SONG:

1. Full take without vocals
2. Take 3 from start with full take
3. Solo by Vocal
4. Take 1
5. Take 2
6. Take 3
7. Take 4
8. Take 5
9. Take 6
10. Take 7
11. Take 8
12. Take 9
13. Take 10
14. Take 11
15. Take 12
16. Take 13
17. Take 14
18. Take 15
19. Take 16
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DISC FIFTEEN - APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION RE-RECORDED / ALTERNATE MIXES:
1. Knockin - (Acoustic Version) W/Axl Take 3 * 2. Warm-up
3.Knockin - (Electric Version) Take 5
4.Welcome to the jungle
5. Knockin (Acoustic Version)
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DISC SIXTEEN - ANALOG TAPES OUTTAKES:

1. Prom Violence - Take 2
2. Prom Violence - Take 3
3. $3 Pyramid -Take 2
4. $3 Pyramid - Take 4
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DISC SEVENTEEN - ATLAS SHRUGGED:
1. Normal bell drums
2.1.5 Db drums up
3.1.5 Db drums down
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DISC EIGHTEEN - T.W.A.T MIXES #2.:
1. Ambient “Silkworms” snare and Brain, mono room off.
2. Atmosphere with mono room
3. Original level atmosphere
4. Snare ensemble only during outro
5. Old snare in the first half, leak prior to snare ensemble only
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** (Bonus) DISC NINETEEN - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART I**

2006 leaks.

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** (Bonus)DISC TWENTY - CREATING DEMOCRACY PART II**

2007 / 2008 leaks.

Dodaje jeszcze Hardschool - gdyż nie jestem pewien czy jest to ten kawałek z trzeciej płyty.

# 21
The Rebel
1. Take 1
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Zqyx w Września 24, 2019, 08:42:25 am
Obstawiam, że dziś wyciekną dyski 10 i 14. Jakby co proszę o dopisek pod nickiem - prorok ;)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 24, 2019, 11:21:02 am
Obstawiam, że dziś wyciekną dyski 10 i 14. Jakby co proszę o dopisek pod nickiem - prorok ;)

Dysk #10 wyciekł - @Zqyx prorok ;)
Dysk #14 wyciekł - @Zqyx prorok ;)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Hubik w Września 24, 2019, 06:23:47 pm
Próbowałem się doliczyć czy mam wszystkie przecieki, które się ukazały i albo ja coś źle patrzę albo są rozbieżności pomiędzy zdjęciem, które wkleił nightrain i tymi postami gdzie są przecieki zaznaczane kolorami.

Czy mógłby ktoś napisać, które numery dysków wyciekły do tej pory?

Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 24, 2019, 07:51:44 pm
Zdjęcie które wkleił @nightrain  jest zdjęciem przed wczorajszym wyciekiem.
Po kolei (wg zdjęcia) wyciekły dyski:

01. Rough Mixes CD #1
02. Robin/Tommy Demos J587 85
03. Rough Mixes  J587 160
04. New Brain Drums  J587 184
05. Madagascar  J587 187
06. Rhiad  J587 190
07. The Blues  J587 196
08. Rough Mixes  J587 201
09. Atlas Shrugged  J587 219
10. T.W.A.T  J587 208
11. T.W.A.T  J587 229
12. Chinese Democracy  J587 238
13. Knockin'/Jungle J587 252
14. New Song J587 277

Aktualizacja 25.09.2019
15. Rough Mixes CD #3
16. The Rebel J587 278

Aktualizacja 26.09.2019
17. Quick Song J587 250

Lista którą wrzucił @sunsetstrip i jest oznaczona kolorami - są te same dyski ale w innej kolejności. Choć brakowało tam CD "The Rebel".
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Hubik w Września 24, 2019, 08:06:21 pm
Dzięki. Musze je pop prostu opisać w kolejności takiej jak na zdjęciu, bo do tej pory opisałem z "kolorowego" posta i nie mogę dojść do ładu.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 24, 2019, 08:08:27 pm
Kolorowy post jest na podstawie informacji @sunsetstrip
Ja tylko dodałem kolor pomarańczowy by oznaczyć co przeciekło.
W sumie każdy może ustawić CD jak chce... np wg numerów J587 xx

Post Merge: [time]Wrzesień 25, 2019, 10:55:10 am[/time]
Ustawiłem kolejność wg. kolejności @nightrain

CD #1

ROUGH MIX CD #1

1. Madagascar - 11/05/00 (drum add) - 5:37
2. T.W.A.T. - 10/12/00 (# 10) - 5:10
3. Atlas Shrugged - 3 / 27/00 (25) - 4:12
4. Perhaps - 3/27/00 (19) - 3:56
5. Prostitute - 3/27/00 (23) - 6:10
6. Riyadh - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
7. Catcher- 3/27/00 (30) - 5:35
8. Chinese Democracy - 11/05/00 (Ver.1) - 3:12
9. The Blues -10/23/00 (# 6) - 4:44
10. Silkworms - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 3:33
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CD #2

ROUGH MIX CD#2

1. P.R.L. - 11/08/09 without guitars
2. Eyes On You - 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 3:36
3. If The World - 11/07/00 ( VER.1) - 5:05
4. Moustache- 11/07/00 (VER.1) - 4:10
5. Quick Song - 3/27/00 (10) - 4:09
6. Zodiac 13 (without vocals) - 11/08 / 00 (VER.4) - 4:38
7. Tonto - 7/14/00 BLK / FRG dat (# 3) - 3:54
8. Real Doll dot com - 9/14/00 B. Head cd (# 2) - 4:04
9. Shacklers Revenge - 9/14/00 cd (# 1) - 3:26
10. I'm Sorry - 10e / 26/00 B. Head cd (# 1) - 6:00
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CD #3

ROUGH MIX CD#3:

1. Billionaire - 10/15/09 BLK / FRG (dat # 2) - 1:31
2. Dub Suplex - 10/05/00 BLK / FRG (dat # 5) - 3:02
3. State Of Grace - 3 / 27/00 (12) - 4:00
4. Oklahoma- 3/23/00 (10) - 4:12
5. Devious Bastard -10/05/00 (# 6) - 3:26
6. I.R.S. - 3/27/00 (21) - 4:14
7. HardSchool -11/08/00 (NU AX) (12) - 3:58
8. Dummy - 10 /05/00 (#8) - 6:24
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CD #4

ROUGH MIX CD#4:

1. Me & My Elvis - 3/23/00 (# 10) - 5:40
2. Circus Maximus - 11/07/00 (Ver.1) - 4:30
3. D Tune - 3/23/60 (11) - 5:16
4. Curly Shuffle -3/23/00 (15) - 3:43
5. Nothing - 11/08/00 (Ver.1) - 3:50
6. As It Began - 11/07/00 (Ver. 1) - 3:51
7. Thyme - 11/08/00 (P.R.L.) - 1: 55
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CD #5

 ROBIN/ TOMMY DEMOS:
1. Inside Out
2. $3 Pyramid
3. Tommy Demo #1
4. Tommy Demo #2
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CD #6

ROUGH MIXES

1. Chinese Democracy (double guitar)
2. Chinese Democracy (single guitar)
3. Quick song
4. Prostitute (original drum)
5. Prostitute (chop drum)
6. The Blues
7. Rhiad & the Bediuns
8. T.W.A.T.
9. Atlas Shrugged
10. Zodiak 13
➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖

CD #7

 NEW BRAIN DRUMS:

1. Madagascar - Drums Up (Version Tom likes)
2. Madagascar - Instrumental Drums Up
3. Madagascar - 3 dB Drums Down
4. Madagascar- 3 Db Instrumental Drums
5. Madagascar - Old Josh Drums
6. Madagascar - Original Brain Drums
7. Chinese Democracy - Old Josh Drums
8. Chinese Democracy - New Brain Drums
9. The Blues - Old Josh Drums
10. The Blues - New Brain Drums
11. Rhiad - Old Josh Drums
12. Rhiad - New Brain Drums
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CD #8

 MADAGASCAR:
1. With Vocals - New Brain Drum Rough Mix
2. Instrumental
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CD #9

 RHIAD:

1. Original Rough Mix - New Brain drums take
2. Final rough mix with pressure (normal level vocals)
3. Final mix with pressure (vocasl up)
4. Pressure Final rough mix without vocals (normal level vocals)
5. Final rough mix without compression (vocals up)
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CD #10

 THE BLUES:

1. Normal level vocals - new brain drums
2. Vocal down 1 Db
3. Instrumental
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CD #11

 ROUGHT MIXES:
1. Rhyad - lead new Brain Drum Remixes with Rough Mix
2. Rhyad (Eq'd Toms)
3. Prostitute
4. The Blues
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CD #12

 ATLAS SHRUGGED:
1. Normal bell drums
2.1.5 Db drums up
3.1.5 Db drums down
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CD #13

  T.W.A.T. :

1. Drum atmosphere
2. Less drums
3. Compression only
4. Strings up
5. Increase Old Beaven Ambient
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CD #14

 T.W.A.T. :
1. Ambient “Silkworms” snare and Brain, mono room off.
2. Atmosphere with mono room
3. Original level atmosphere
4. Snare ensemble only during outro
5. Old snare in the first half, leak prior to snare ensemble only
➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖

CD #15

 CHINESE DEMOCRACY:
1. Normal level drums and guitar
2. drums up
3. 2 dB drums up
4. 2.5 dB up to guitar, normal level drums
5. Guitars up to 1.5 dB
6. Guitars up 0.7 dB
7. Normal level drums and guitars instrumental
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CD #16

QUICK SONG:

  1. Full take without vocals
  2. Take 3 from start with full take
  3. Solo by Vocal
  4. Take 1
  5. Take 2
  6. Take 3
  7. Take 4
  8. Take 5
  9. Take 6
10. Take 7
11. Take 8
12. Take 9
13. Take 10
14. Take 11
15. Take 12
16. Take 13
17. Take 14
18. Take 15
19. Take 16
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CD #17

 KNOCKIN' / JUNGLE
1. Knockin - (Acoustic Version) W/Axl Take 3
2. Warm-up
3. Knockin - (Electric Version) Take 5
4. Welcome to the jungle
5. Knockin (Acoustic Version)
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CD #18

NEW SONGS

1. Prom Violence - Take 2
2. Prom Violence - Take 3
3. $3 Pyramid -Take 2
4. $3 Pyramid - Take 4
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CD #19

 THE REBEL

1. Take 1
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CD #20


** (Bonus) CREATING DEMOCRACY PART I**

2006 leaks.

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CD #21

** (Bonus) CREATING DEMOCRACY PART II**

2007 / 2008 leaks.
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Września 26, 2019, 08:57:58 pm
Jeśli większość z tych piosenek była ukończona lub bliska ukończeniu w 1999, 2000, to czemu na płytę czekaliśmy do 2008? Piosenek jest więcej niż na CHD, więc czemu na kolejną płytę czekamy tak dłuuuuugo??? Ciekawe są te informacje o ponownym nagraniu przez Slasha i Duffa. Tylko ile w tym prawdy?

Jak wynika z wywiadu z Axlem, płyta miała wyjść w 2000 roku.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/axl-speaks-238599/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/axl-speaks-238599/)

Cytuj
The new Guns n’ Roses album is tentatively titled Chinese Democracy and loosely scheduled for summer 2000. “As far as I can tell,” says Guns n’ Roses’ manager, Doug Goldstein, “we are now 99 percent musically done and 80 percent vocals done. I see the record being done February or March for a summer release.”

Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: daub w Października 18, 2019, 12:25:06 pm
to czeka nas jeszcze być może kilka perełek (o ile je kiedyś ktoś upubliczni) :

~ za gnrevolution

- 1995-1997 old Guns sessions
- 1997-1998 Youth / shadow band sessions
- 1998-1999 Rumbo Sean Beavan sessions
- 2001 Village sessions (additional discs not included in Zutaut locker)
- 2002 RTB Village sessions
- 2004 mystery sessions
- 2006 Andy Wallace double album sessions
- 2008 Axl Caram double album sessions
- 2010 CD2 release candidate sessions
- 2014 Axl/Pitman sessions
- Misc. sessions (Oh My God, This I Love)
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: sunsetstrip w Października 18, 2019, 04:39:51 pm
Oby z wokalami
Tytuł: Odp: Co wiemy o kolejnym albumie Gunsów - informacje i cytaty
Wiadomość wysłana przez: mafioso w Października 20, 2019, 07:21:10 am
2010 CD2 release candidate sessions

To brzmi najciekawiej